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The Truth About Gene Simmons

#65
I think KISS, in their heyday, was quite imaginative, not derivative or hackneyed at all, taken in the context of their time, and their popularity then and now (isn't that what POPular music is, when a lot of people like something, it's by definition, popular).

While the OP is certainly entitled to his/her opinion, as are we all, IMO it comes off as sour grapes.
 
#67
Kiss was named 10th, by VH1, on their list of the '100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock' and 9th on 'The Greatest Metal Bands' list by MTV. On September 23, 2009, Kiss was named 1st on their list of the "Hit Parader top 100 live bands". In 2010 Kiss was named 56th, by VH1, on their list of the "100 Greatest Artists Of All Time".

According to RIAA: KISS 19M units sold, Macca 15.5M units.

24 gold albums, 10 platinum, 2 multi-platinum
 
#68
Rimshot said:
I think KISS, in their heyday, was quite imaginative, not derivative or hackneyed at all, taken in the context of their time, and their popularity then and now (isn't that what POPular music is, when a lot of people like something, it's by definition, popular).

While the OP is certainly entitled to his/her opinion, as are we all, IMO it comes off as sour grapes.
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Well, I tried not to. I think it's hard to make a critical point without that accusation so I showed how I too have been lucky. And then there are those who say that comes off as bragging.

Can't win.
 
#69
Rimshot said:
Kiss was named 10th, by VH1, on their list of the '100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock' and 9th on 'The Greatest Metal Bands' list by MTV. On September 23, 2009, Kiss was named 1st on their list of the "Hit Parader top 100 live bands". In 2010 Kiss was named 56th, by VH1, on their list of the "100 Greatest Artists Of All Time".

According to RIAA: KISS 19M units sold, Macca 15.5M units.
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There you have it. I guess that proves Gene Simmons is better than Paul McCartney.
 
#70
plangentmusic said:
Well, I tried not to. I think it's hard to make a critical point without that accusation so I showed how I too have been lucky. And then there are those who say that comes off as bragging.

Can't win.
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I don't look at it as a win/lose proposition. You have an opinion and you stated it. It's not an easily defended position.

But you opened the door to comparisons by bringing your personal 'achievements' into the mix. While I'm not a fan of keeping score by the $'s, I'm certain Mr. $immons has you beat in that department. I understand he was on television as well.

I'm sure you're a more than adequate bass player, maybe even better than me. But Gene Simmons was one of the first reasons I picked up a four-string. That's good enough for me.
 
#71
Rimshot said:
According to RIAA: KISS 19M units sold, Macca 15.5M units.
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I tried. Really I did. But Macca wouldn't listen to me. When the Beatles broke up, and Macca wasn't sure about what to do in his music career, I tried to talk him into face paint and flailing his tongue all over the place. He just wouldn't go for it. And now look at this. Just look at those RIAA stats.

See Mac...........told ya. If you would have just listened to me, you wouldn't have had to resort to food preparation to make ends meet.....

 
#72
Rimshot said:
I don't look at it as a win/lose proposition. You have an opinion and you stated it. It's not an easily defended position.

But you opened the door to comparisons by bringing your personal 'achievements' into the mix. While I'm not a fan of keeping score by the $'s, I'm certain Mr. $immons has you beat in that department. I understand he was on television as well.

I'm sure you're a more than adequate bass player, maybe even better than me. But Gene Simmons was one of the first reasons I picked up a four-string. That's good enough for me.
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I think it's great if anyone can inspire someone else.

And at no point was I comparing my financial success to Genes. I think that's obvious.
 
#74
plangentmusic said:
That was the 80's. :) As mentioned, the music scene ain't what it used to be.

And honestly, I'm not even sure what a supporting member is.
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It is an option to help fund the forum. People who have donated have are allowed more privileges, such as using an avatar or selling items in the classifieds. I donated as soon as I had the chance. We all know TB is great! http://www.talkbass.com/forum/payments.php
 
#75
Plangentmusic, I see in your signature that you have posts on YouTube. I'd sincerely enjoy hearing your stuff. Always looking for new stuff to be exposed to and experience. Would you send me a link in a PM?

I have a friend who's in a local surf music band, gotta love the pale blue and green guitars.
 
#77
plangentmusic said:
There you have it. I guess that proves Gene Simmons is better than Paul McCartney.
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Better being very subjective, I wouldn't care to offer an opinion. But it certainly speaks volumes regarding popularity and giving people what they want.

That's what's so great about music, there's something out there for just about everyone, and if you can't find it and want to put in the time, you can make your own music and find a little pocket of goodness all to yourself.
 
#79
Rimshot said:
Better being very subjective, I wouldn't care to offer an opinion. But it certainly speaks volumes regarding popularity and giving people what they want.

That's what's so great about music, there's something out there for just about everyone, and if you can't find it and want to put in the time, you can make your own music and find a little pocket of goodness all to yourself.
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Well that's true.

My point was that no one can argue with success. But success isn't always the best indicator of quality.
 

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