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The Who new album

Actually, as I read it, Pete invested huge amounts in upgrading the Who's touring capabilities for Who Are You, and the corporation was so cash poor as a result that it was decided that they couldn't scrub all their plans regardless of Keith's sudden demise. Keith died in Sept 78, and The Who were onstage with Kenny Jones by the following May. In fact, Townshend released a statement vowing to continue the band the day after Keith died.


Are you aware of tours being insured, especially nowadays?

Here's one that recently happened.

A name band decides its going to tour. Dates are lined up, sound system and companies are reserved and slowly a small virtual corporation is formed.

You might have noticed tours rarely cancel dates, lots of reasons for that now. Some times the you'll notice a band seems to be following another national act. Many times two or three full size sound systems are dedicated to several bands allowing each sound system to either stay in place and be utilized or possibly moved a short distance to be used by another band.this is more efficient a one touring system is on the road to the next gig while another is being set up and another is being used that night.

Promoter's don't want to sign on and assemble a tour if the band has issues. Performance insurance means all those bodies moving and manning that equipment along with the venues and their electricians, vendors, security, etc will be paid, whether or not the artist plays.

One of the reasons Tom Petty's condition was so dire was that Mr. Petty couldn't get that insurance because he likely would have flunked the physical because of pharmaceuticals. Jimi, Janis and Jim would have failed to meet the minimum just as some current artists would.

Keith was attending rehab as it was, but wasn't following instructions unfortunately.

The Quadrophenia tour left the band in the hole for about $40K or £40K after the Tours conclusion. Don't remember which.

Townshend should have listened more to Zappa about record company accounting.
 
Are you aware of tours being insured, especially nowadays?

Here's one that recently happened.

A name band decides its going to tour. Dates are lined up, sound system and companies are reserved and slowly a small virtual corporation is formed.

You might have noticed tours rarely cancel dates, lots of reasons for that now. Some times the you'll notice a band seems to be following another national act. Many times two or three full size sound systems are dedicated to several bands allowing each sound system to either stay in place and be utilized or possibly moved a short distance to be used by another band.this is more efficient a one touring system is on the road to the next gig while another is being set up and another is being used that night.

Promoter's don't want to sign on and assemble a tour if the band has issues. Performance insurance means all those bodies moving and manning that equipment along with the venues and their electricians, vendors, security, etc will be paid, whether or not the artist plays.

One of the reasons Tom Petty's condition was so dire was that Mr. Petty couldn't get that insurance because he likely would have flunked the physical because of pharmaceuticals. Jimi, Janis and Jim would have failed to meet the minimum just as some current artists would.

Keith was attending rehab as it was, but wasn't following instructions unfortunately.

The Quadrophenia tour left the band in the hole for about $40K or £40K after the Tours conclusion. Don't remember which.

Townshend should have listened more to Zappa about record company accounting.


Your post reminded me that I never learned the resolution of Kanye walking off his tour, citing exhaustion and claiming a ten million payment due him.

Apparently Lloyd's of London documented some of Kanye's drug use and used their evidence to leverage a settlement more favorable to them. The ultimate
amount was not disclosed.

Kanye West Settles Insurance Lawsuit Over Canceled Tour
 
Macca wasn't the only writer in the Beatles.

John wrote more than a few, Roger rarely writes.

Keep in mind Pete and Roger had nothing to do with Keith and John leaving to start new bands, they left the PLANET.

Do the the remaining members have the right to use the name?

Might be a different story had members left for greener pastures.

All good points. I know that there is tremendous value and branding of the name THE WHO.
If they had re-branded as The Daltrey Townshend Band everyone would still know that they were two of the original members of THE WHO. Would that have hurt the marketing of the new product? Personally I think that might have been better for them. But then I am a marketing guy. So I see it a bit differently. I would have splashed the release with, "WHO is the Daltrey Townshend Band?"
 
I'm pretty ambivalent about this. They have all the right in the world to make and release music, but sure don't have to use The Who brand to sell their music. Hopefully I'll dig it (haven't listened yet).

Led Zeppelin

I wonder about this. Seriously. If Jonesy had died instead of Bonham, do you think they would have ended Led Zeppelin?
 
All good points. I know that there is tremendous value and branding of the name THE WHO.
If they had re-branded as The Daltrey Townshend Band everyone would still know that they were two of the original members of THE WHO. Would that have hurt the marketing of the new product? Personally I think that might have been better for them. But then I am a marketing guy. So I see it a bit differently. I would have splashed the release with, "WHO is the Daltrey Townshend Band?"


Seriously Daltrey Townshend?

Even Roger could see the value in it being "TD"!

The sponsorship by TD bank alone would be almost as good as when "Tommy" Hilfiger sponsored them years back!
 
I'm pretty ambivalent about this. They have all the right in the world to make and release music, but sure don't have to use The Who brand to sell their music. Hopefully I'll dig it (haven't listened yet).



I wonder about this. Seriously. If Jonesy had died instead of Bonham, do you think they would have ended Led Zeppelin?


Jimmy and Robert seemed to have had no issues touring without either?
 
I have a friend who is also a Who live tape collector and he maintains that one of the band's best hidden secrets is all the blistering live fretwork Pete has busted out over the years. Do you agree with that? And if so, where would you steer the casual fan to hear such fare online? thanks!


I'll let someone else give you the details but while Pete's electric playing is still cranking, its his acoustic "flourishes" that are interspersed through much of the last couple of albums before this latest one, which I have yet to hear inits entirety.

Not sure if they are digitally added through editting or if he's actually inserting them "on the fly" live to digital.

Most of the old albums have an acoustic mixed low, i used to wonder if these were guide tracks. Starting to think that with subtle mixing, I'm subconciously hearing the softer acoustic part which "sets up" and makes the electrc part that much harder, louder, etc.
 
I'm pretty ambivalent about this. They have all the right in the world to make and release music, but sure don't have to use The Who brand to sell their music. Hopefully I'll dig it (haven't listened yet).



I wonder about this. Seriously. If Jonesy had died instead of Bonham, do you think they would have ended Led Zeppelin?
Well, there was "Walking Into Clarksdale" and "No Quarter"; I would think Page still had Jones' phone number.
 
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too bad they didnt do a studio album in the 90s, as they wouldve been on a very short list of bands that released new studio albums of new original material in six decades (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s)

the only band I can think of that has done that is Yes, granted they have no original members

Fleetwood Mac can be argued that they have; their contribution to the 10s is an EP of new original material....

The Rolling Stones is close but falls short; their 10s album is an album of cover material

King Crimson is also close but no cigar

considering how active the three remaining members that now consist of The Moody Blues are, they never did a studio album or EP in the 10s

Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd both do not have a 00s album or EP of new original material, although they both have for the 10s

did i miss anyone?
 
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Just gave it a listen on Spotify. Sounds like a politically charged sort of song, ie "Down in Guantanamo
We still got the ball and chain". Roger Daltrey's voice is almost unrecognisable. The song sounds like a prelude for more to come. I'm not really into politics on pop songs. Having said that, I know there are a lot protest songs that make it to the charts and are well written songs, but Ball and Chain kind of lacks some sort of intensity.
 
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