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Things I've learned playing at church

Jan 19, 2004
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I kept this non-religious and music focused on purpose. I've been playing music for about 30 years now in one format or another. Have done the rock band thing for about 24 years, but in the last 7 years I've started playing in contemporary Praise & Worship groups in various churches and I was just thinking back on all the good musical lessons I've learned in that environment that I never learned playing elsewhere.

Playing in a P&W group is quite different from other bands and ensembles I've played with. At first it just seems like another band, but as you go you realize it’s very different. Many of the things you learn there apply to secular bands as well and can improve them. I thought I would share some of these, so here are some of the things I've learned playing at church:

It's not about showcasing, it’s about collaboration - In many rock bands, the focus is the lead singer or lead guitar player which makes performances more of a showcase. At church, that emphasis shifts from focusing on a single band member to focusing on the audience and providing them what they need at that time.

Being able to perform well with little rehearsal – Unlike secular bands, that typically practice for weeks and months before they hit the stage, P&W groups often go without rehearsal. Many times a long sound check is all the rehearsal you get.

Ability to learn new music quickly – Each week a P&W band will get 5-6 new songs that were not played the week before. Sometimes they come in on Wednesday or Thursday and have to be ready by the weekend. Sometimes you get the songs the day before or the day off and have to be able to sight read on the fly and make it good. You get good as learning new songs fast and playing new songs on the fly.

Reading/Working with Chord Charts – I’ve played with sheet music in the past where each note as scripted. But working with chord charts leaves room for expression. For some that’s a good thing, for others terrifying. But working in the church environment gets you used to having a chord chart put down in front of you and having to play it on the spot and make it sound like you’ve been playing it for years even if you have never seen or heard the song before in your life.

Ability to play with new people – Since many church bands are volunteer based, you frequently find yourself playing with different band members from week to week. Each player brings their own style and level of ability with them. It’s important to be able to listen to a new player, understand strengths and weaknesses and quickly adjust your playing as needed to best fit with them. For example a bass player playing with a new drummer each week. It’s important to be able to quickly gel with them to make the performance work.

Sensitivity to your Audience - This is probably the biggest thing I've learned playing at church. Being able to get a sense from a group of people what they want and being able to deliver. It requires other skills listed below to be able to pull it off in real time.

Finding your sonic space - P&W groups can be larger with 7-10 instruments on stage playing at once with many of the same instrument. With that sense of collaboration instead of showcasing, it quickly becomes important to listen to what others are playing and finding other complimentary parts to add to the layer of the music. Many times in Rock bands, players force their parts in. With many P&W groups, players listen to what is being played and find a complimentary spot to fill in.

Dynamics - I've never played in a group when dynamics are more important than at church. Sometimes what you play needs to be near whisper quiet and atmospheric, other times you need to create a massive wall of sound. Going back and forth frequently is common and a necessary part of the job.

Following a leader – This is another big differentiation from rock bands where everyone is focused on getting theirs on stage. In the P&W setting there is typically a defined leader. Being able to listen to their instrument or voice and keying off that in real time is crucial.

Improvisation - Improvisation plays a big part in playing at church. Being able to quickly roll with changes. Sometimes a song can be rehearsed as an upbeat rocking tune, but when it comes to that point in the service, the mood calls for a different vibe and having the ability to turn that upbeat tune into a soft ballad on the fly is indispensable.

Music Theory - In Rock bands, theory doesn’t come up a ton, but many times at church the players are classically trained and somewhat fluent in music theory. They understand chords and voicings and progressions.

Transposing on the Fly - This is an extension of the music theory. With so many instruments and vocalists, it’s important to be able change keys on short notice. This means learning the song in a way that it’s portable between keys. Some use capos for this, but over time its best to see songs in I IV V format so it can be moved to new keys.

Coming with a heart to serve – Otherwise known as leaving your ego at the door. This is a huge one and where secular bands and church bands most often differ. Coming into a P&W band in a non-leader role means you are there to follow the leader and help; not only the leader, but the pastor and the congregation. Without this it’s hard to function well in a church environment due to many of the factors listed above.

Of course many of these can be found outside of a church environment, but often times they are not. And as previously mentioned, all of these can apply to and improve secular bands as well. If you have some musical concepts that you’ve learned playing in church, feel free to add on. Hope this helps someone.
 
I play at church, a lot of those elements I might have picked in high school band, but one thing I noticed particularly this morning

You learn how to deal with people. At least at one of the Churches I play at not everybody practices, and people come unprepared all the time.

It's a different place to learn about conflict. I think this happens in non-church bands, but most of the time you can't really kick someone out of a church band.
 
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Finding your sonic space - P&W groups can be larger with 7-10 instruments on stage playing at once with many of the same instrument. With that sense of collaboration instead of showcasing, it quickly becomes important to listen to what others are playing and finding other complimentary parts to add to the layer of the music. Many times in Rock bands, players force their parts in. With many P&W groups, players listen to what is being played and find a complimentary spot to fill in.

Dynamics - I've never played in a group when dynamics are more important than at church. Sometimes what you play needs to be near whisper quiet and atmospheric, other times you need to create a massive wall of sound. Going back and forth frequently is common and a necessary part of the job.

Actually, IME having played almost every weekend the last 12 years in either a bar band or a P&W band, P&W band players have a lot harder time with these aspects in particular than veteran bar band players do. I have done many P&W rehearsals and services where everybody is playing all the time and pretty much at full volume. There is a lot of playing going on but very little listening and the concept of laying out or layering is almost completely ignored. Now, this may be a function of all the P&W bands around here being volunteer based (i.e. they have to take who they can get as opposed to the best players in the market), and/or the fact that a lot of worship leaders don't have the personality it takes to give strong musical direction and/or directly confront band members about overplaying and/or playing too loudly.

It's great that you've found situations where these aspects are done "right" but based on my experience anyway, I'm not sure I'd say it's particularly common in your average P&W scenario.
 
All very good advice. However, the thing I've learned at church is....keep thy mouth shut.

I am by no means some sort of control freak. However, there have been times where I've made suggestions in an attempt to help tidy things up a bit and for the most part I just get blank looks. We don't have assigned "teams" so to say, as players seem to rotate quite a bit and I've found to just keep quiet and let the "leader" do as they see fit...even if they're missing certain things.

I guess the one thing that bothers me the most is this: I am always (and have told them) very open to any suggestion from anybody. I've said "if you hear me doing something that's not right or if you'd like me to change something, just tell me. You're not going to hurt my feelings." But it doesn't work the other way around.

So I just learn my parts, I go to practice and keep quiet.
 
I guess the one thing that bothers me the most is this: I am always (and have told them) very open to any suggestion from anybody. I've said "if you hear me doing something that's not right or if you'd like me to change something, just tell me. You're not going to hurt my feelings." But it doesn't work the other way around.

So I just learn my parts, I go to practice and keep quiet.

It is very reassuring to know that there is at least one other person who has arrived at that conclusion as well. I've gotten tired of my ideas being "put on the fridge," so to speak. I've also ran out of patience with being treated like I don't know anything. All I can do is what I can, and allow others to bear the accountability for what they do.

Knowing where your heart stands can help. After all, the reason we do what we do overrides all other concerns when it comes to this.
 
At my church the thing I continually try to reinforce to the other musicians is that we aren't giving a concert- we are leading a congregation in song. We do intros and musical interludes in some songs, but we constantly have to remind ourselves that we need to choose songs and arrangements that lend themselves to the audience being able to sing along.

That concept extends farther than just song choice and arrangement. It dictates our volume levels too. When people can't hear themselves singing- it's too loud.

At least at my church, as long as we adhere to that basic concept we seem to get good feedback from everybody.
 
I agree 100% that the purpose is to lead the conregation in song. To help people find God thru music. NO aurgument there. However....and I need you guys to tell me if I'm wrong about this. I really do. Here's the situation.

Lately, some of the assigned leaders have been very good about getting the songs to us well in advance. I'm talking two weeks in advance before the practice date. They know that between jobs, kids and daily life that nobody really has the time for this. This helps me a great deal because due to my job (12 hours a night, Monday thru Friday...plus sleeping issues) I have no time during the week to practice. None. So I learn the songs on the weekends and come fully prepared to practice. Everytime. I mean, I hammer on these songs to learn them thru and thru.

It really bothers me when others show up at practice after having two weeks to learn and they can barely play the songs. Can't remember certain changes, certain timings and play with a very "hesitant" feeling due to not knowing the song. When Sunday rolls around it's a bit better, but it could still be better than what it is. I told the leaders "I look at it this way. Do you want the pastor getting up there half prepared? Do you want him sounding hesitant and fumbling over his words? Should it be any differant with the music, then?" I also added that we don't have to be Berklee graduates in order to sound good. We just have to tidy up a lot of loose ends and it would be so much better. But if people can barely play the songs (due to not knowing them well) then it's not going to happen.

The other thing that bothers me is the fact that regardless of who's leading, they always slow the songs down. Even if a song is slow to begin with, it gets slowed down. I told them that by doing this they're creating a certain "wobble" in the rhythm. Everybody playing knows it's too slow and what happens is that everyone is concentrating so much on keeping it slow that the dynamics suffer. I said "we're trying to lift people up and some of these songs come across as a downright drag."

Am I wrong about all this? Really, it's not that I think I'm better than anybody. It's a big world out there filled with players who can do EVERYTHING better than I could ever do and I know that. If I left tomorrow I wouldn't be missed and I know that. And it's not like I'm losing sleep over this because I'm not, nor am I angry about these things. It just bothers me. Maybe I'm the one who's missing things.

Am I?
 
Does it help the congregation if you play it slower?

One thing I've noticed whether I'm playing or not is that sometimes some people sing along and sometimes they don't. But not everybody sings along. That's never happened. It never seems to be the same way twice. I guess the "collective mood" dictates whether or not they want to.
 
You couldn't be more dead on with this thread! I'm 34 and have been playing with my P&W team for about 2 months now after an 8 yr hiatus from even picking up a bass!

The one that kills me is NO practice time! I get my songs on Thurs or Fri night and have to know them by Sunday AM! I need to beef up my theory because they change the Key on the fly which makes the fills hard for me!

All in all I love it!
 
Thoughtful thread.

A lot of that CCM music takes a lot of patience and musical ability to perform well. You need a team leader that knows something about music or its easy to lose the feel of the songs.

But there is way more drama than is necessary. And that stupid warm pad is going all the time on the keyboard.

I don't see how God can take it.
 
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klokker said:
And that stupid warm pad is going all the time on the keyboard.

I don't see how God can take it.
This had me laughing. It's not quite that bad at my church, but I do find the keyboardist/WL to be quite "handy" often. When I do sound, there are usually some EQ cuts and a nice fader pull down, but the regular guy likes to blast the keys for some reason, even though most of our songs are guitar-driven.
 
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I come from a church that does singing instead (no instruments in worship), but hymnals are some of my favorite pieces to play. Plus, I sing the bass part (my falsetto needs work) so I KNOW the bass part and can play it as practice.
 
Leaving your ego at the door is a big key to doing well in church settings I find. And yes, slower can be better in certain circumstances. I have to say that I have found what I feel to be an exceptional church and feel blessed to be part of the group there.
 

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