Tone Factor vid
I'm ordering one as soon as they get more stock in (WMD only sent them 1 to try
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I'm ordering one as soon as they get more stock in (WMD only sent them 1 to try
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Things just got serious over at WMD - The Geiger Counter
- Thread starter grygrx
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- Jan 11, 2008
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- Endorsing Artist: Aguilar, D'Addario
soon... they are out of stock... next week.
been rocking out with the copilot orbit, and wmd fatman... the fatman is a pretty awesome filter... at least for my non funk uses.
john
been rocking out with the copilot orbit, and wmd fatman... the fatman is a pretty awesome filter... at least for my non funk uses.
john
My custom noisebox could do a lot of similar stuff, but now it's sold and I feel less high and mighty. 
(See previous posts in thread for joke explanation)
(See previous posts in thread for joke explanation)
I picked one up last month. Extremely deep pedal with a huge range of sounds available. For instance, the Geiger can cop some tones that are very similar to the Prunes&Custards fuzzy/filtery sound, and the Devi Ever Bass Fuzz's lo-fi synthy fuzz sound- only with less low end..
Just about every preset cuts the lows end out. Ive had some luck dialing some in by using some extreme settings, like almost no gain but cranking the volume and bringing the bitrate down- I having a feeling that with time I find some useful bassy sounds but not too much luck yet. I have an Alesis Bitrman as well and while the Bitrman is nowhere near as versatile, it is very easy to dial in musical sounds with good low end. When I ordered the GeigerCounter and was waiting to receive it, I thought I would sell the Bitrman immediately once it arrived, but when I got it I was a bit disappointed at the loss of lows in most settings. The Bitrman has been on the shelf since I got the Geiger, but Im still up in the air on whether or not the Geiger will make it into the Bass rig.
I've found a few sounds that don't completely kill the low end but I still need to do a bit of exploration with the pedal to see if it will get use for bass tones and/or need to go in a blend loop.
It's a very cool pedal and I'm having a lot of fun using it to process beats and other stuff, but I don't know if most people would find it immediately useful for bass.
Just about every preset cuts the lows end out. Ive had some luck dialing some in by using some extreme settings, like almost no gain but cranking the volume and bringing the bitrate down- I having a feeling that with time I find some useful bassy sounds but not too much luck yet. I have an Alesis Bitrman as well and while the Bitrman is nowhere near as versatile, it is very easy to dial in musical sounds with good low end. When I ordered the GeigerCounter and was waiting to receive it, I thought I would sell the Bitrman immediately once it arrived, but when I got it I was a bit disappointed at the loss of lows in most settings. The Bitrman has been on the shelf since I got the Geiger, but Im still up in the air on whether or not the Geiger will make it into the Bass rig.
I've found a few sounds that don't completely kill the low end but I still need to do a bit of exploration with the pedal to see if it will get use for bass tones and/or need to go in a blend loop.
It's a very cool pedal and I'm having a lot of fun using it to process beats and other stuff, but I don't know if most people would find it immediately useful for bass.
This pedal just dropped my jaw. If you are into synth/noise/experimental stuff there is about a billion things to do with it.
Couple of samples after like 5 minutes of fooling with it. I really don't understand yet... but wow.
Couple of samples after like 5 minutes of fooling with it. I really don't understand yet... but wow.
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How's the low end response? Fightthepower said he felt like most settings killed the low end. I'm definitely into this pedal, but I refuse to re-EQ to compensate for bass suckage. Thoughts?
I can barely comprehend the number of possible settings on this pedal. Yes many of them are going to suck the low end, just as many are going to suck the middle end, some more are going to suck the middle end, the last few might just suck everything.
The tone knob in it's lowest setting (when it's enabled) retains the lows (dependent on the wave table you are on). When the tone knob is disabled the whole spectrum passes to the wave table.
How things come out of the wave table... well, I don't understand that yet... but it's neat. Not for traditionalists that is for sure.
Point made; thanks for your continued assessment. I look forward to more clips and a formal review!
This is what I expected (bolded region) based on the Geiger's manual, but I found it not to be the case. Having been through each of the 255 wavetables at least once with the tone enabled and in the lowest, middle, and highest positions, the Geiger still sucked out all my lows. Ive also put the MoogLPF after it in these settings, and there weren't many lows to resonate at what appears to be unity, and the bottom was still pretty non-existent.. *edit* Admittedly I did the marathon wavetable run at night time at lower volumes, which accentuates the increased high-end and loss of lowend. The lowend isn't completely gone, but it definitely sucks out a bit a fatness, partly due to the digital process Im sure. There is a bit of highend boost as well (more than a fuzz for instance) which makes the lowend seem to disappear more. Using a filter after the Geiger with the Geiger a little above unity volume makes it more usable for bass. The useable bass-style tones I've found thus far just aren't as bassy as the analog counterparts I have. I've found a few settings that I like, but that are noisy in 'normal' settings- Ive found that in some settings, there are good results to be had by turning the gain down as low as possible (0 in some cases) and then cranking the 'volume' to reach unity- this works like a gate in some settings, cleaning the the background noise and even boosting the low end. So many options..
Pedals like this always perplex me. What is the point of having hundreds of sounds possible, but only being able to have one available at your feet? Seems like a great pedal to toy with in your house, or for the studio, but it seems that live, you would have to compromise the hundreds of options, for one sound. Maybe I don't understand its controls. I still would like to try one out.
Proton
Proton
I find, when performing live, it's good to go over it with the band, find ONE sound out of the many that are available that fits the best, and keep it there. Often, one sound will be able to work for several songs, and other sounds can come from other pedals.
