Three octave major scale box pattern.

[MalcolmAmos]

Hi guys/gals. Please take a look at this post [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] Start with post #1. For some reason the address takes you to post # 4.

Have any of you come up with a three octave major scale box pattern. No reason to re-invent the wheel if someone has already done it.

Thanks, Malcolm

 

[Roscoe East]

Yeah, but I'll be damned if I'm going to type it out in ASCII!

 

[Rev J]

I generally use John Myung's "Reverse Mode Approach". It kind of goes like this (I'm working from the perspective of 6 string bass here):

Starting on the first fret of the B string to the E string. First 6 notes of C Ionian (C, D, E, F, G, A) shift to the 7th fret of the E String. On the E and A strings play the first 6 notes of B Locrian (B, C, D, E, F, G, A) shift to the 12th fret of the A String. Play the first 6 notes of A Aeolian on the A and D Strings (A, B, C, D, E, F). Shift to the 17th fret and play the first 6 notes of G Mixolydian on the D and G strings (G, A, B, C, D, E). Shift up to the 20th fret and play the first 5 notes of F Lydian on the G and C strings (F, G, A, B, C). Then Reverse the whole process back down.

I know I went above and beyond 3 octaves but like I said I'm working with a 24 fret 6 string bass and you can modify this approach for whatever bass you are playing.

Also you can check out the entire video of John Myungs Progressive Bass Concepts on YouTube since it is not available on DVD I highly recommend it.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

[bassinplace]

Can't watch this right now at work, but I will! Thanks!

 

[mambo4]

wouldn't 3 full octaves in a 4 fret span require more than six strings?

 

[MalcolmAmos]

wouldn't 3 full octaves in a 4 fret span require more than six strings?

I'm working on if you place the middle root around the 5th to 7th fret we should be able to get three octaves on a 6 string guitar. Looks like a four string instrument will have to rely upon going up the 1st string for the upper octave and going down the 4th string for the lower. That also means the middle octave root will have to be somewhere in that same 5th to 7th fret area.

Still working on this. Will post when I get it worked out.

 

[Five String]

+1

 

[mambo4]

On a guitar, the most range you can get within a 4 fret span is 2 octaves plus a minor 3rd (4 frets.)
Unless you speak of another kind of ' box', or tune differently, it's not possible to encompass 3 octaves in one position.

 

[MalcolmAmos]

On a guitar, the most range you can get within a 4 fret span is 2 octaves plus a minor 3rd (4 frets.)
Unless you speak of another kind of ' box', or tune differently, it's not possible to encompass 3 octaves in one position.

Yes you are correct, a three octave pattern will occupy more than four frets. One of the problems I'm running into is what you point out. The third octave notes are not that close (especially on the four string fretboard) to the first and second octave notes so coming up with a usable pattern is the primary problem.

Begs the question how often do we need a full three octaves. I can see the need for a couple of lower notes, but, the music I play just does not use a full three octaves.

O'h well................ beating a dead horse.

 

[Pacman]

If you know your fingerboard well, there are many 3 octave scale patterns.

 

[mambo4]

If you know your fingerboard well, there are many 3 octave scale patterns.

exactly. You might be able to combine a few 7 fret 'boxes' but at that point, the box concept loses utility over just plain learning the neck.

 

[Rev J]

exactly. You might be able to combine a few 7 fret 'boxes' but at that point, the box concept loses utility over just plain learning the neck.

Since when is learning the neck a bad thing? Just sayin'.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

[mambo4]

Since when is learning the neck a bad thing? Just sayin'.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

Never said that.
Learning the neck > boxes any day.

 

[rjmsteel]

Cool

 

[henry2513]

If you know your fingerboard well, there are many 3 octave scale patterns.

This.

 

[Upstate SC Bass]

So 4 octave C scale on a 6 string: tried to make it look visual. You shift where the spaces are
And ignore the x’s they are there so everything doesn’t collapse to the left. Lol.

XxxxxxxxxxxxFGA BC. (6th string)
XxxxxxxxxxxxCDE (FG) (5string)
XxxxxxxxDEF GAB
XxxxEFG ABC
FGA BCD
CDE

Shifting from the 4th finger to the 1st finger each time. Mostly one finger to each fret (4 fingers) but there are a couple of 6 fret spacing right at the first CDE FGA and again up at the last octave on top CDE FGA. And you just extend one final shift to get the BC on top
If you have a 5 string you just modify the last part to go to FG so you get 3.5 9ctaves.
Not really hard at all as long as you don’t mind the 6 fret stretches
And john Myung uses the same fingering coming back down. Shift up from 4th finger to 1st finger so you always have fingers in front of you and shift down from 1st finger to 4th finger coming down so you always have fingers in front of you as well.

 

[Groove Master]

wouldn't 3 full octaves in a 4 fret span require more than six strings?

Nope a 5 strings with 24 frets let you do at least 9 keys on 12 ;-)