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Three pickup bass - Is this layout dumb?

Looking at doing a custom bass build, and now I am toying with a three pickup idea. Depending on the body I go with, I am either thinking three soapbars or soapbar/precision/soapbar. Two in the standard jazz or PJ positions, but the third pickup right at the neck heel.

My gut is leaning towards the Dingstrand Nordwalls for the soapbars, but I'm not sure what one would sound like that far forward. Anyone know of any similar setups I'd be able to check out?
 
I'll add my opinion (which you didn't ask for!): three pickup systems seem like a lot of work to set up and I'm not sure the payoff is there. I personally get pretty much everything I want from a good preamp and a neck/middle pickup setup.

I was thinking of grabbing one of the rotary switches for pickup selection, doing a neck / neck+bridge / middle / middle +bridge type of deal. I've never been a huge fan of bridge pickups soloed, but I kind of dig the idea with the neck humbucker.
 
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I was thinking of grabbing one of the rotary switches for pickup selection, doing a neck / neck+bridge / middle / middle +bridge type of deal. I've never been a huge fan of bridge pickups soloed, but I kind of dig the idea with the neck humbucker.

If you are going to do it, the rotary switch def seems the way to go.
 
I have three pickups on my Supro, and I think there is some trouble with the magnetism messing with a low B string. I also almost always end up playing with the middle one cranked, and only peck at the other two - so i might not be using all of my tonal options. But it's not a bad idea, you literally get to have it all, whether you need it or not.
 
If you are going to do it, the rotary switch def seems the way to go.
Get a 7-way:
1. Neck
2. Neck & Middle
3. Middle
4. Middle and Bridge
5. Bridge
6. Neck and Bridge
7. All three

Then add series/parallel switching. Don't forget to include variants such as neck and middle in series, with them in parallel with the bridge, and all combinations of series/parallel combinations.

If you get dual-coil pickups you can also do coil selection. Don't forget to add switching so the coils can be series or parallel or singled (one coil or the other, selectable). If you do split the coils, don't forget that you can send one coil through the tone circuit and the other bypassing the tone circuit, straight to the jack, selectable by an onboard switch. Might be useful to be able to send the north coil of a dual coil pickup straight out, and the south coil going through the tone control, or reverse the two.

OK it's 2:30 on Sunday afternoon and I'm bored. As a good Canadian, I apologize. [/Hijack over]
 
I like 3 pickup basses. The neck and middle together is my favorite combination.
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Definitely a try before you buy thing. There are folks who can’t live without a pickup in that spot. Billy Sheehan for one. I knew a guy who did three pickup Js on all his Jazz basses. If it moves you closer to your ideal, it’s a great idea. If not, then it’s just time, money, and a gaping hole in your bass when you pull it ;)
 
'Soapbar' is just a shape. What coil configuration do you plan to use internally in them?
I never knew that Soapbar is just a shape, either after all these years. I'm guessing the OP meant a humbucker like on a Cirrus, etc, something that is silent when idling. That's what I think of when I say soapbar.
 
I never knew that Soapbar is just a shape, either after all these years. I'm guessing the OP meant a humbucker like on a Cirrus, etc, something that is silent when idling. That's what I think of when I say soapbar.
Great. Go check the EMG page and you'll find at least 4 they sell in different configs in the same shape, and there's a few others they don't make but are possible eg sidewinders like Nordstrand Zens/ Gibson mudbuckers.
Even with that said, some parallel humbuckers have 4 wires like most Barts that allow access to both coils, whereas Aguilars don't, they're internally connected. To make things even more complicated, some dual linear humbuckers (illustrated in Bart original Quads layout) such as my Schaller Dual J have all 8 wires available so you can have a lot of combinations.
 
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Looking at doing a custom bass build, and now I am toying with a three pickup idea. Depending on the body I go with, I am either thinking three soapbars or soapbar/precision/soapbar. Two in the standard jazz or PJ positions, but the third pickup right at the neck heel.

My gut is leaning towards the Dingstrand Nordwalls for the soapbars, but I'm not sure what one would sound like that far forward. Anyone know of any similar setups I'd be able to check out?

3 soapbars sorta

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soapbar split p soapbar

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I'll add my opinion (which you didn't ask for!): three pickup systems seem like a lot of work to set up and I'm not sure the payoff is there. I personally get pretty much everything I want from a good preamp and a neck/middle pickup setup.

I will dissent: three pickups and a six-position Freeway Switch is a dream when playing live. Six instantly available tones, at least five of which are entirely usable (the sixth, bridge pickup solo, is liked by many but not so much by me, unless the pickup is voiced deep and is at least an inch and a half away from the bridge saddles).

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Just make sure whatever wiring you choose that it is easily but precisely manipulated so you don't accidentally crank the wrong position when your band is in the middle of a set playing contrasting songs back-to-back and you're trying to keep the momentum going to not lose the dancers on the floor. I've been there. Oops.
 
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I'm going for a triple pickup in my next custom build - It's not at all crazy, but positioning is key. The third pickup should be getting something the other two don't.

The 1980s PRS Bass IV had three single-coils, two roughly where you'd put J pickups (but nudged closer to the bridge) and one right at the end of the fingerboard, similar to a Ric / Hofner etc, for that extra-bassy fundamental, which is why Robbie Shakespeare loved it for reggae/dub. All three pickups were at different positions and provided a variety of useful tones - sharp bridge, balanced middle, extra bassy. It used a 5-way rotary switch, but I think I would have gone with 3 mini toggles and independent volume controls myself.

By contrast, the Fender Urge, with it's J/P/J setup, clustered the pickups very closely together - I had one and I don't think the P pickup really added much (matter of opinion). The great thing about that bass was its compactness and the really nice neck shape, very playable.

The other option is something like a "strat bass," evenly spaced, possibly with one at an angle. Fender's short-lived Rascal short-scale had 3 lipstick pickups in that configuration.

In terms of pickups per se, it really depends how precise you want the area of string to be detected to be. Going with a narrower coil like a J will detect a smaller area, letting you zero in on specific overtones with more of a scooped midrange, whereas a P creates a bit of natural phasing due to the split coil, with more mids and lows.

An alternate configuration might simply be a dual-coil humbucking soapbar plus a single coil, with the ability to split the soapbar or to do series/parallel switching.
 
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