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Double Bass Thumb Position

Perhaps some one with more knowledge than I can help me out with a problem I have with the thumb position?
There is simply not enough flesh (meat?) between the nail and the first joint of my thumb to effectively hold the G and D strings down firmly on the finger board. So, it simply straddles the string like an arch ( It’s probably the natural shrinking of old age :crying) producing no, or at best, muffled tones. To compensate, I have been using the joint itself as the stopping-point. There is only a shift to the right of less than a half inch but it does throw out the alignment of my fingers. Often I simply use the harmonic instead of stopping the string, but as you can imagine it is awkward when fingering, let’s say, a chromatic run with the harmonic in the middle.
Other than switching to thicker gut strings, what do you suggest? Is this a common problem? Should I just forget about it?
Thanks in advance. I hope this isn’t too trivial a question?
Gerry G
 
Based on just looking down and feeling my callus, I use the joint to play notes with my thumb. Just as you want to pull on the inside of a string when pressing it down instead of simply coming at it from the top, I personally find that using the joint gives me a more focused sound and a more stable anchor for my positions.

Have you looked into Petracchi's book?
 
Other than switching to thicker gut strings, what do you suggest? Is this a common problem? Should I just forget about it?
Thanks in advance. I hope this isn’t too trivial a question?
Gerry G[/QUOTE]

This is common if the action is too high. Try lower height and see if there is an improvement.
Tom Gale
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Thanks for the kind and helpful replies.
Les Fret and Amtt: At least now I know that I'm not alone. I think I have been over-thinking the joint usage. It's just that in my dotage :D I've discovered the beauty of arco and the pleasure of pure legato on the bass after many years of playing pizzicato and bowing only endings and intros. And. . . I like to do things right.
Also,Tom: I agree that string height and tension can be a problem, but in my case it isn't. My G string is about 7mm at the end of the bridge. It's the thinness of the string. I just find it impossible to get the string pressed to the finger board firmly enough with the soft part between the first joint and the thumbnail. From now on I'll just forget about it and use the joint to get firm contact. I always tell young players that to get a great tone you have to have "matched hands" (qoute from Ray Brown).
Thanks again,
GG
 
Another tactic is to examine fingerings that don't use the thumb, ie by using 1 2 3 fingering and shifting more. On the occasions you must use the thumb use the knob of the joint but try tucking its base under the palm and across towards the little finger. This will help maintain good arm, hand and finger alignment and also stiffen the thumb