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Thunderbird Club

Looks good! And they serve Negra Modelo! My favorite Mexican Beer.

As long as they have Negra Modelo or Bohemia, I'm in :hyper:

everyone’s got those around here…they even have the ever elusive Victoria brand…. they also do mezcal tastings…….who needs absinthe when you can have mezcal?……:hyper:
 
The Round Core Boomers are nice as well for a little less highs and a bit more smoothness and maybe a slightly bigger sound. A little more flexible as well. I'm like you on the Balanced Nickels. Nothing wrong with them, but nothing great about them either. The Precision Flats are great. I have them on a couple basses. Try the Pressurewounds sometime. More round than flats, but have unique mids. Stay away from the Brite Flats--from what I hear.
Brite Flats were the onliest strings I've ever put on, f---ed* with, and immediately cut up.

*ool
 
To follow-up the discussion about the EB “tone tapped” pickups in the ‘15s, I found one of the articles I recalled reading about them.
Gibson Thunderbird Bass 2015 (Guitarsite)
So that pretty much confirms it, the toggles are in fact coil taps.

Interestingly, it looks like Gibson was originally planning on a pup selector switch as well but decided to drop it on the release date. Not a big deal, with two volume controls you can do the same thing just not as fast.

When I get some time with the 2015 I’m going to have to try out the specific tone options as noted in the article…

The pickups and electronics were also improved, with the official description saying that the 2015 Thunderbird Bass now has increased tonal Versatility, with eight distinct sounds.

This sonic versatility is made possible by the dual EB Bass Alnico pickups that feature Gibson's novel "tuned coil tapping" design. These 8 bass tones are selectable via the three-way pickup selector and the two mini toggle switches that sit right below the three control knobs.

Unfortunately, we cannot yet see this "Tuned coil tapping" system at work, because they haven't released a video demonstration yet. It definitely would be interesting how it applies to the bass, and also to electric guitars.

Gibson provided some details on each of the sound:

  • Neck pickup: Balanced tone, most bass, mids give some “bark”
  • Tapped neck pickup: Scoops some mids, rounder sound, retains low end
  • Bridge pickup: Less low end, more midrange bite
  • Tapped bridge pickup: Scoops mids, lighter low end, defined highs, good “pop” bass sound
  • Neck and bridge pickups: Retains strong low end, adds midrange but there’s an apparent slight scoop in the lower mids because the higher and lower frequencies are louder
  • Tapped neck pickup and bridge pickup: Major scooping around 500Hz-1kHz, good lows, a hint of brightness, lays back in a track
  • Tapped bridge pickup and neck pickup: Adds some upper mids back in compared to the tapped neck pickup and bridge pickup
  • Tapped bridge pickup and tapped neck pickup: Like the tapped neck pickup and bridge pickup sound, but adds slightly lower midrange frequencies back in.
 
I'm insane too :laugh: I bought two of those '90's SS B-15T's years ago and use them both with the 100 watt Solid State heads or just with an SVT head (sound great with it) and always thought of buying 2 more to have four 15's. They used to be really cheap, but that's gone by.

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I may need to pay a visit to you when you get back to Mass.
We'll need to invite @Count Bassie
 
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All the basses went well with this shirt, but this one could be a twin sibling. Alas, it remained at Queen V’s castle rather than following me.

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Rick, it turns out, is not a Rick buff, but a Thundernerd like us!

Sharon should have a group photo from the restaurant; I’ll see about getting one of those up.


Miles, it was wonderful to meet you and Sharon, I really enjoyed your visit and dinner was a kick too! I do hope you'll visit Seattle again in the future - welcome mat is out for you!

No one's mentioned the trains!

I close the closet doors behind us in the one pic, but opened them at one point - floor to ceiling filled with model trains......... So many bad habits :woot:
 
I don't think I've seen one of those 15s before. Looks great. Did they come with EVs in them?


They were modern solid state B-15's but didn't sell very well so they stopped making them, they were made during the middle 1990's. The cabs really sound good though and the heads sound pretty good too.
The upgraded ones came with EV's but mine came with Eminence which I really like anyway, they go up to about 4K same as SVT 10's which is high enough for me. Two of them with an SVT head sounds really good, they're 4 ohm speakers too so they match. Actually one sounds good but I'm afraid to blow them unless it's a tiny room.
 
So that pretty much confirms it, the toggles are in fact coil taps.

Interestingly, it looks like Gibson was originally planning on a pup selector switch as well but decided to drop it on the release date. Not a big deal, with two volume controls you can do the same thing just not as fast.

When I get some time with the 2015 I’m going to have to try out the specific tone options as noted in the article…

The pickups and electronics were also improved, with the official description saying that the 2015 Thunderbird Bass now has increased tonal Versatility, with eight distinct sounds.

This sonic versatility is made possible by the dual EB Bass Alnico pickups that feature Gibson's novel "tuned coil tapping" design. These 8 bass tones are selectable via the three-way pickup selector and the two mini toggle switches that sit right below the three control knobs.

Unfortunately, we cannot yet see this "Tuned coil tapping" system at work, because they haven't released a video demonstration yet. It definitely would be interesting how it applies to the bass, and also to electric guitars.

Gibson provided some details on each of the sound:

  • Neck pickup: Balanced tone, most bass, mids give some “bark”
  • Tapped neck pickup: Scoops some mids, rounder sound, retains low end
  • Bridge pickup: Less low end, more midrange bite
  • Tapped bridge pickup: Scoops mids, lighter low end, defined highs, good “pop” bass sound
  • Neck and bridge pickups: Retains strong low end, adds midrange but there’s an apparent slight scoop in the lower mids because the higher and lower frequencies are louder
  • Tapped neck pickup and bridge pickup: Major scooping around 500Hz-1kHz, good lows, a hint of brightness, lays back in a track
  • Tapped bridge pickup and neck pickup: Adds some upper mids back in compared to the tapped neck pickup and bridge pickup
  • Tapped bridge pickup and tapped neck pickup: Like the tapped neck pickup and bridge pickup sound, but adds slightly lower midrange frequencies back in.
I think the question remains is how they are tapped. Do they actually go from two coils to a single coil when tapped, or are they tapped in a different way so both coils remain active?
 
That’s why you made sure Sharon was with you. So she could understand the magic. Good luck persuading her…

I can’t wait for the July meet up! Meeting everyone will be awesome. I’m taking the ‘15, the ‘21 NR and the ‘11 Short Scale. And if anyone is interested, the Mesa TT 800 head.
Man, I so want to be at the NorCal GTG but it looks like everything is conspiring against me. My siblings settled on a date to spread my moms ashes (been trying to get together to do this for two years now). Looks like that date will be the last weekend in June up at Bodega Bay. No way I can drive up for that and then drive up to Santa Cruz the following weekend. Bummed.

However, I’d be open to taking a couple of basses with me on my way up to Bodega Bay on June 24th and dropping them off with @Chucky Stiletti to be used at the GTG if @MCF could drop them off at my house (just off of 101 in the Camarillo area) on his way back home.

If interested, take a look at my profile page and pick a couple that interest you. I’d recommend the BlingBird as a curiosity, the Capped Goth as a lion in sheeps clothing, and the Warwick Thumb BO5 as a sonic destroyer (it is to Jazz/P basses what Greco is to modern Tbirds and then some - pure steroids). Of course there’s many others to choose from. Let me know if you’re interested.
 
I think the question remains is how they are tapped. Do they actually go from two coils to a single coil when tapped, or are they tapped in a different way so both coils remain active?
Looking at the wiring, it appears that one of the coils taps out on each pup when the toggle is engaged for that pup. Typically you would wire that as tapping out the South coil on the neck and tapping out the North coil on the bridge. When both pups are tapped and both volumes set the same you in essence have a super wide humbucker (North neck coil + South bridge coil several inches apart).

With normal humbucking pups this would allow you to approximate a Jazz tone (both pups tapped and on) or a P bass tone (neck pup tapped and on, bridge off) or a Stingray tone (neck pup off, bridge pup on full humbucker) or a Thunderbird tone (both humbuckers full on). But the magnets on the 2015 pups are so incredibly strong I suspect they still play very heavily in the string vibration thereby impacting the sound of the activated coils.

When I get a chance to mess with the 2015 I can confirm or correct all this, there’s an easy tap test for coil splitting.
 

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