Thunderbird Club

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

Regardless, get the surgical referral. A surgeon can see more in a flat x-ray than a radiologist can on a CT. Take all your imaging to the consult (CTs, MRs, U/Ss, etc.) on CD (images, not reports).

The sports orthopaedic surgeon I went to did look at them, and he referred me to a different surgeon but I haven’t heard back from the second surgeon about an appointment yet… and their answering machine says “DO NOT leave any messages. If you were referred by another doctor, we will contact YOU about an appointment”

 

[GonePlaid]

The sports orthopaedic surgeon I went to did look at them, and he referred me to a different surgeon but I haven’t heard back from the second surgeon about an appointment yet… and their answering machine says “DO NOT leave any messages. If you were referred by another doctor, we will contact YOU about an appointment”

"Don't call us; we'll call you". Riiiight.

 

[ThaCoast]

* I don't really need either, but the ability to annoy others is priceless...

I would endorse this quote wholeheartedly!

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

tiny….

 

[PillO]

I've had a number of surgeries and the surgeon never bothers reading what the MRI/Radiologist MD writes. There was one exception, sort of, at UCSF Sports Medicine Institute. They initially couldn't get the DVD to load my images so the surgeon read the report (level 2 MCL sprain)...no real issue, just wear a brace and it will heal.

Hey doc, we figured it out. The images are up now. WT?... how in the world did you walk in here. We have an opening next week, your knee is F-ed...100% tear of the MCL, 2 tears of the meniscus, 100% tear of the Patellar Retinaculum, and sheared a piece of bone off the Femoral Condyle. Why they don't bother reading what is in the imaging report.

I know a couple of radiologists... My descriptions of them would get me banned. Suffice it to say that I have never met a radiologist who is a people person. They are best suited to working alone in a dark room and never having human contact.

But the reality of radiology training is that although they spend a lot of time learning to interpret images, they never see the pathology in person; only by imaging, so they don't connect the two. And in work, the vast majority of what they do is look for pathologies like cancer, not orthopaedic problems.

Conversely, orthopaedic surgeons (and many other types of surgeons) have a ton of experience relating a radiograph to what they actually see in the OR. It gives them a superior ability to find problems that can be corrected compared to radiologists.

 

[PillO]

I would endorse this quote wholeheartedly!

My raison d'etre

Translation - My grapes of wrath

 

[PillO]

The sports orthopaedic surgeon I went to did look at them, and he referred me to a different surgeon but I haven’t heard back from the second surgeon about an appointment yet… and their answering machine says “DO NOT leave any messages. If you were referred by another doctor, we will contact YOU about an appointment”

Keep calling until you get a person live. Then tell them a sob story - you can't work properly and are on modified duties, your only passion in life is music and you can't do that because of the pain. Make it a good story, you need to tug some heart strings hard.

PM me the surgeon's name if it is someone in Hamilton and I can see if I can offer you some advice how to get in faster.

 

[PillO]

"Don't call us; we'll call you". Riiiight.

That is Soviet-style healthcare.

I have a friend who is an orthopaedic surgeon doing only knees. He takes two months off every year (February and August) because of billing caps.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

Keep calling until you get a person live. Then tell them a sob story - you can't work properly and are on modified duties, your only passion in life is music and you can't do that because of the pain. Make it a good story, you need to tug some heart strings hard.

PM me the surgeon's name if it is someone in Hamilton and I can see if I can offer you some advice how to get in faster.

Once I get benefits at this new job that’s the plan.
Both doctors are in the Niagara region

 

[PillO]

Once I get benefits at this new job that’s the plan.
Both doctors are in the Niagara region

Go back to the doctor you saw before and ask to be referred to Femi Ayeni at HHSC. Don't cancel the first referral, tell him you can't take the wait and want another referral so that you can take what comes up first.

Femi is the team doctor for the TiCats and has published extensively on shoulder procedures. He is site chief for orthopaedics and teaches arthoscopy. The other choice is Matt Denkers. Also site chief of orthopaedics (a different site). Bios below:

Bio (mcmaster.ca)
Bio (mcmaster.ca)

As soon as you know that the referral has been sent, call the assistant (Penny for Femi, Kelly for Matt) and be exceedingly nice to them (both are sweethearts).

 

[Stealth57]

Well, asked if available. Said yes. Asked to see it, no reply. We’ll see if that changes.

He did eventually send some real pictures. Said been in storage for a few years (from the dirt, I can believe that) and has a hum when turned on. OK, doesn't seem like a scammer, but at $400, definitely not a deal. Can't imagine the possible issues with capacitors and the paper cone on that 15" speaker.

 

[KaraQ]

Is J.C. Whitney still around?

Sort of?

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[Stealth57]

He did eventually send some real pictures. Said been in storage for a few years (from the dirt, I can believe that) and has a hum when turned on. OK, doesn't seem like a scammer, but at $400, definitely not a deal. Can't imagine the possible issues with capacitors and the paper cone on that 15" speaker.

On the other hand, more reasonable.

 

[PillO]

I nearly forgot...

Paddling this morning. I got as far as the rail line coming out of the big marshalling yard in Hamilton. Took a pic for the Queen.

It is an uphill grade getting out of Hamilton* so there were three engines pulling the train. HUGE bottom end on those engines. Rumbling me from that far.

* Mandatory Hamilton joke: Anything worth doing is difficult...

 

[Stealth57]

I nearly forgot...

Paddling this morning. I got as far as the rail line coming out of the big marshalling yard in Hamilton. Took a pic for the Queen.
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It is an uphill grade getting out of Hamilton* so there were three engines pulling the train. HUGE bottom end on those engines. Rumbling me from that far.

* Mandatory Hamilton joke: Anything worth doing is difficult...

And you threw in a shot of @WillyW 's feet.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I nearly forgot...

Paddling this morning. I got as far as the rail line coming out of the big marshalling yard in Hamilton. Took a pic for the Queen.
View attachment 4697232

It is an uphill grade getting out of Hamilton* so there were three engines pulling the train. HUGE bottom end on those engines. Rumbling me from that far.

* Mandatory Hamilton joke: Anything worth doing is difficult...

gotta ratchet that up a notch or two…

 

[PillO]

And you threw in a shot of @WillyW 's feet.

No, those are my lovely little toesy woesies...

 

[PillO]

gotta ratchet that up a notch or two…

A power boat does nothing to enhance my fire hydrant stature.

 

[TBird1958]

I nearly forgot...

Paddling this morning. I got as far as the rail line coming out of the big marshalling yard in Hamilton. Took a pic for the Queen.
View attachment 4697232

It is an uphill grade getting out of Hamilton* so there were three engines pulling the train. HUGE bottom end on those engines. Rumbling me from that far.

* Mandatory Hamilton joke: Anything worth doing is difficult...

My work backs onto the BNSF main thru Seattle, it is very busy, the trains vibrate our 100 year old building. There's some real low frequencies coming out of the locomotives and they weigh in well over 200 tons apiece, always a good idea to stay clear.
For the past few weeks I've been riding our "Heavy Rail" train into Seattle at least two days a week, it's a kick as there are stretches that it goes 79mph and I'm into downtown in 19 minutes including a station stop. The scenery is arailfan paradise and there are often interesting planes on Boeing Field as well - I saw B-29 "Doc" on Wednesday.

Typical BNSF stuff with a Canadian Pacific unit running off some horsepower hours, the station in the background is for Seattle Light Rail, formerly Union Pacific/Milwaukee Road.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

Go back to the doctor you saw before and ask to be referred to Femi Ayeni at HHSC. Don't cancel the first referral, tell him you can't take the wait and want another referral so that you can take what comes up first.

Femi is the team doctor for the TiCats and has published extensively on shoulder procedures. He is site chief for orthopaedics and teaches arthoscopy. The other choice is Matt Denkers. Also site chief of orthopaedics (a different site). Bios below:

Bio (mcmaster.ca)
Bio (mcmaster.ca)

As soon as you know that the referral has been sent, call the assistant (Penny for Femi, Kelly for Matt) and be exceedingly nice to them (both are sweethearts).

Noted!