Good morning Birders. Here's a cut to get the blood flowing. Zappa's 1980's front man Ike Willis. Dig the lead players left handed G&L Tele strung upside down like a flipped right handed guitar. I love the drummer in this lineup.
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Thunderbird Club
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I recall seeing a clip about how the guitarist and Lars (drummer) did a lot of the songs and worked them up. When they recorded they aimed for what the two of them normally sounded like. At least that was Lars' take on for an album he was talking about. Metallica is not my thing, but Trujillo is clearly a great player and should be heard.
That would be tough to even be me in a band and listen to the playback and be thinking, why did I bother playing? But I guess if you still get a monstrous check and get to play live its tolerable.
Bet you haven't heard from Peter Cetera either.
Good, I'm glad I wasn't misremembering something and getting it sideways.
Not hearing bass has been something I notice on occasion when hearing some metal bands (which is not often), especially when the bass sounds like a distorted lower register guitar.
Which kinda explains why I prefer a non-distorted bass tone. Leave the 'dirt' to the gee-tar players. JMNSHO.
John Entwistle is rolling in his grave !
That’s why I’ve never been interested in Metallica. I don’t hear a bass.
Maybe, but Townsend didn't use a super distorted-to the point of not hearing the chords-tone(usually). Plus, I'm still alive-as of when I post this, anyway.
That's a risk when using a dirt pedal designed for guitar. A lot will suck out the low end. The key for bass is having a blend knob, to blend in your clean signal. Or use one that's specifically designed for bass. But to each their own.
It’s very frustrating to come up with a nice bass part, record the track with great tone and then when the track is done/released…..can’t hear the bass
Of course I don’t get monstrous cheques for bass tracks. Maybe that would make it better?
Excellent point. Hetfield sometimes plays leads. Recording is done with multi tracking. Live shows often have 'ghost-or guest-players. They could cut the "Band" down to just Lars and James(using the Boss OC-3 that lets you program in the lower octave on only the E and A strings)and save 2 salaries.
There is just possibly some sarcasm attached to this idea. I'd never wanna put a bass player outta work(unless it meant I got the gig).
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Just turn the mother******g volume up on the bass ! I like to feel the bass not just hear it !!
I was unimpressed with my bass Soul Food pedal, which added a blend. I prefer the geetar version.
It works for the "Rocket" 'cos you're not doing Metal. Metallica ain't the only band that the bass gets buried. I freely grant that any o/d isn't appropriate in our band, whereas it would be in others.
I had a Mosrite fuzz box years ago, and, as you say, it sucked the bottom outta my tone(it also just sucked). This was long b4 there were fuzzes designed for bass.
ADDENDUM: I sometimes* use my Micro POG(my only pedal)-octave up-when we go out as 3 to add fullness during guitar solos. Sound like a guitar and bass playing the same line.
* depends on(1) how much floor space I have,(b) how much PITA is involved.
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Jane Makes Nasty Swine Hors d'oeuvre Okra. I would imagine.
Okra.Jane Makes Nasty Swine Hors d'oeuvre Okra. I would imagine.
Not bad if fixed right. Slimy doesn't work.Okra.
I wouldn't mind matching the power tube breakup and compression found in one of my Ampeg heads, but it's way too loud to be usable. My Sanamp VT will allow blending in some distortion, but it just doesn't seem to fit well. But it's been a long time since I tried it and I should devote a little time to seeing if blending a little grit in is a plus for my needs. But, I only use it as my DI, and don't really use/want it coloring the tone of the head to the cab. First world problems!
On my old Peavey head I used to distort one channel a little and blend it with the other for a little texture for Red Barchetta. For SS it wasn't a bad sound.
