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so true...so many jobs that are thought to require a degree that actually don't...my 18 year old is in his second year of engineering at SJSU and the dean of engineering (colleague of my wife) told him that he would end up using about 6 to 9% of what he'll learn....
When my wife was in college (before I went back), I noticed all the weird classes she needed to take for her "physical distribution and transportation" degree, I said that most people would be better off to go work at a company at a reduced rate and learn a skill the way a company wants it, and once that was achieved (months not years), they would receive full pay. They would figure out whether they liked that job or not (but making money), the company would be paying someone to actually accomplish a task even at a reduced rate while they trained and they would get a trained employee the way they needed, the potential employee would not be paying (getting massive debt), to go to school to learn things they didn't need but would actually be getting paid to learn a skill they would use at their job, if they chose to stick with it. If not, they learned some things and were getting paid in the process.

Even in her case most of the classes were simply filler to justify a four year degree and a four year expense. Only a fraction of what she took classes for had anything to do with the degree or a potential job. It could've literally been a one or two year degree at best.
 
Medium scale would be great for a Tbird (or Explorer)

That would help the first-position reach issue. Not having a hs helps balance too! ;)

medium scale Factorbird fretless -

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I remember having a computer class in the 8th grade at a school that was almost next to Univ. of Louisville, and they were able to tie into their computer. We did basic "programing" which consisted in asking the computer questions which had to be asked very, very basically or it wouldn't understand. It would spit out a basic answer. Then I would have completely agreed with your Dad. By the time you went through all that you could have found or worked the answer yourself. I know it was geared for eighth grade, but even then I thought this has to be the dumbest thing I've ever done. Who would waste time fooling with this?

It was well over decade before I touched a PC and that was completely different thing compared to what we were doing.

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When Gone Plaid and I were in junior high school it would have been all girls, there were no girls in shop class that I can remember either. Gone Plaid use to take a horse and buggy to school. :laugh: I just missed them.
In the late 70s we had a girl take shop from time to time. From what I remember they liked it and learned there were things they could do as well as any guy that they maybe never thought of before.
 
Technology is impossible to predict. He didn’t see the implications of Moore’s law.

Disagree. The tech is easy to predict (with enough deep thinking). It is the human ingenuity of what to do with it as well as the social development implications that are difficult to predict.

my dad worked as an applications engineer for worthigton pumps in NYC in the late 60's and left when they brought in an IBM 360 VAX....a clerk would walk around with a cart collecting the paperwork for the calculations to be done and would return with the results 1 hour later and distribute to the engineers who with nothing to do would just eye the secretaries.....said eyeing the same secretaries over and over got old...

So you fire the secretaries periodically...

Why did the personal computer change computing so drastically, given that the first PCs were woefully underpowered compared to the mainframes and minis? Because it made a seismic shift in the power dynamic. No longer were the geeks in charge of who's program ran when, now the user could choose what to run and when. The IT department was suddenly powerless.

Back when the the computer room was a room with THE COMPUTER. MY high school had one and we would mark our test answers on punch cards:thumbsup:

Back when the computer room was a whole floor in the building. And needed raised floors to plumb all the required cooling into the various bits and pieces...

But prior to that, Computer was a job title. When my mum finished school in the 50s, she took a job as a computer.
 
When my wife was in college (before I went back), I noticed all the weird classes she needed to take for her "physical distribution and transportation" degree, I said that most people would be better off to go work at a company at a reduced rate and learn a skill the way a company wants it, and once that was achieved (months not years), they would receive full pay. They would figure out whether they liked that job or not (but making money), the company would be paying someone to actually accomplish a task even at a reduced rate while they trained and they would get a trained employee the way they needed, the potential employee would not be paying (getting massive debt), to go to school to learn things they didn't need but would actually be getting paid to learn a skill they would use at their job, if they chose to stick with it. If not, they learned some things and were getting paid in the process.

Even in her case most of the classes were simply filler to justify a four year degree and a four year expense. Only a fraction of what she took classes for had anything to do with the degree or a potential job. It could've literally been a one or two year degree at best.

You just described an apprenticeship. That's exactly what I went through to become a master electrician. 40 hours/week on the job training, with pay. 1 night per week of classroom time.

Pay increased according to hours on the job. After 4 years you are a journeyman. Two years as a journeyman and you can test for master license. I worked out very well for me.
 
Do you think the seller would reserve it for me if I talk to him? Has that ever happened in your experiences in Reverb before?
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Maybe contact the seller and ask if he would take what you have now? The price listed is the offer; you can bid what you would be willing to pay. For anyone in business, money now is always more valuable than money later.

Don't tell me you have never asked for a discount...
 
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Maybe contact the seller and ask if he would take what you have now? The price listed is the offer; you can bid what you would be willing to pay. For anyone in business, money now is always more valuable than money later.

Don't tell me you have never asked for a discount...
It's not just for the bass, it's also for the mailing cost. I have more than enough for the price of the bass, just not for the mailing costs.
 
IV = bolt on neck and not even sure what the pickups are.

CP = through neck and Thunderbird Plus (TB+) pickups. Think of this as a modern Gibson but made in Indonesia and a lot less expensive. No longer made.
And CP was replaced by the VP.

As much as many here sing the praises of the VP, the CPs have fans as well, as evidenced by the paucity available on the used market.
 
so true...so many jobs that are thought to require a degree that actually don't...my 18 year old is in his second year of engineering at SJSU and the dean of engineering (colleague of my wife) told him that he would end up using about 6 to 9% of what he'll learn....
But that 6-9% will be different for each graduate...