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#285,901
Chucky Stiletti said:
are those 9 or 18 volt?
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They are 9v, but the newish M series are 18. I had a Tribute but thought is was terribly bland sounding. Hard to achieve with an L series. The M series also had redesigned pickups. I kept if a few months and moved it on. Had a blend knob which I always thought was something missing on the L2ks since there was just one vol knob.
 
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#285,902
dagrev said:
They are 9v, but the newish M series are 18. I had a Tribute but thought is was terribly bland sounding. Hard to achieve with an L series. The M series also had redesigned pickups. I kept if a few months and moved it on. Had a blend knob which I always thought was something missing on the L2ks since there was just one vol knob.
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I've heard the new L2k series was different but I was unaware it is now 18v. I have no 'wants' with the 9v system - not sure how 18v would make it "better".
 
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#285,904
Stealth57 said:
Probably also built bombers in the 40s.
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#285,905
dagrev said:
Thank you. I hardly ever use active as it just doesn't do anything I need. I will use it if I need a quick boost or clarity, but that's about it and rare. I much prefer passive. I've not had gain issues, I guess because I'm not smart enough to get complicated with amps and the like. In fact, even when using one of the G&Ls I generally don't even adjust anything on the amp. But they have such power, even in passive I can see where they are either loved or hated. They can be so aggressive I'm shocked they are not more common in harder rock or metal--other than none have "flamboyant" shapes. If someone wants to drive the heck out of an amp or pedal or "cut through" any mix--G&L is your friend. My other two L2ks are more naturally aggressive sounding, the '81 is more sweet and no work required to tame anything if that is desired. Almost a different kind of bass in some ways. Age and Mahogany? I would love to play one of the reissues it see how well they replicate what their predecessors did.
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The early G&L's are different in a number of ways from later models including electronics. Refinements over the years. Mahogany will promote a warmer tone/sound - my T2K MkII is ash and is pretty even tonally.
 
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#285,906
JIO said:
I've heard the new L2k series was different but I was unaware it is now 18v. I have no 'wants' with the 9v system - not sure how 18v would make it "better".
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If it's wired +9V you would have twice the headroom biased to a stable 0V. Typically, the 18V power supply increases the S/N ratio too. I haven't seen the schematic so this is just general Low Voltage operation information.
 
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#285,907
SubHuman said:
If it's wired +9V you would have twice the headroom biased to a stable 0V. Typically, the 18V power supply increases the S/N ratio too. I haven't seen the schematic so this is just general Low Voltage operation information.
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Not versed in what another battery offers. I owned both 18v & 9v Kubicki Factors and the 18v had another passive setting over the 9v version. 5 clicks (two active/two passive) + off vs 4 clicks (two active/1 passive) + off. Otherwise they seemed pretty much the same.
 
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#285,908
Stealth57 said:
Having never used it, not sure how to measure that. So, I rubbed a fret with the corner of the cloth and it turned black. The cloth that is.
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If it's dry, it won't moisturize the fretboard. The fret cleaner aspect will still work fine. There was a way to rehydrate the cloth, but I didn't need to know it then and don't recall what it was.
 
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#285,909
JIO said:
I've heard the new L2k series was different but I was unaware it is now 18v. I have no 'wants' with the 9v system - not sure how 18v would make it "better".
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I haven't heard that the new L series has changed to 18v. But I haven't looked. It's the M series that went with the 18v pre as far as I know. Anyone, please correct if I'm wrong.
 
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#285,910
JIO said:
Not versed in what another battery offers. I owned both 18v & 9v Kubicki Factors and the 18v had another passive setting over the 9v version. 5 clicks (two active/two passive) + off vs 4 clicks (two active/1 passive) + off. Otherwise they seemed pretty much the same.
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Was this a pedal or a built-in guitar pre-amp? Just curious. Through a guitar amp live you probably wouldn't hear much of a difference. In a recording studio the better S/N Ratio would potentially be better for a cleaner recording.
 
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#285,914
WillyW said:
say what? I didn’t know you could have AAA come out and do that.

Had AAA for years never used them much.

Up and running for the next 5 years.

until the next thing breaks.

TV up and running too. I didn’t want to spend Sony money on a brain melting TV.

the Hisense seems to be fine so far, the Samsung was 7-10 years old. I had a sound bar on it and I didn’t feel like hooking it back up and the new tv sounds fine.
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What does a car battery cost now? Last time I bought one about 2 years ago it was ~ $189.00 for the platinum 5 year warranty. I figure they cost a little more now.
 
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#285,915
dagrev said:
I haven't heard that the new L series has changed to 18v. But I haven't looked. It's the M series that went with the 18v pre as far as I know. Anyone, please correct if I'm wrong.
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Oh, I see - I mistook it for the L series... my bad. I've never played one.
 
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#285,917
Stealth57 said:
How should I test?
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You will have to send it to me. :whistle:

Or....you can wipe it on a small section of a fretboard, and it should darken it a bit as it puts a little moisture back onto it. The cloth should have a slight dampness to it as opposed to very dry like a plain cloth.

The reason I asked was the last time I bought some from ebay it was dried out, and much have been sitting a good while. I believe it was the older version that had a coconut smell. Likely had coconut oil in it to some degree. I know it is used to condition leather by some polish makers.
 
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#285,919
dagrev said:
You will have to send it to me. :whistle:

Or....you can wipe it on a small section of a fretboard, and it should darken it a bit as it puts a little moisture back onto it. The cloth should have a slight dampness to it as opposed to very dry like a plain cloth.

The reason I asked was the last time I bought some from ebay it was dried out, and much have been sitting a good while. I believe it was the older version that had a coconut smell. Likely had coconut oil in it to some degree. I know it is used to condition leather by some polish makers.
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I’m going with dry. Smells like a nut oil slightly. But, all it did was leave a white residue on the fretboard. I buffed it out and didn’t notice any improvement.
 
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