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Thunderbird Club

Top class musicians/performers for sure - another band (10cc) I knew of/heard their songs but wasn't into them then ('70s), and a friend treated me to a recent show of theirs. (two original members, and a long-term third member) and two younger hired guns. It was an incredible show! totally pro. When attending a live performance that is THAT good - I become a fan that night because I see/fully understand their talents/professionalism. As an amateur - I have high respect for that level of musicianship.


1975 - young bucks


2024 - check out the Ashdown bass rig - original member bass-player/singer/songwriter Graham Gouldman played the same two basses he played in the '70s - a white Fender and a black Ric. I thought that was so cool. He's the central guitarist in the '75 vid -

totally different bands imho...similarly, heard someone compare Steely Dan to Lynyrd Skynyrd the other day and although I can see how someone would go down that road, (to me) they are apples and oranges.....
 
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did you guys play it?
Yes. But of the drummers we cycled through, only one could do it justice. It was one of those songs everyone seemed to think they should play. Girls seemed to like it, and that mattered. But few bands could do it well. We had a kid who could play it decently on keys, so that was why we did it when he was available.
 
Yes. But of the drummers we cycled through, only one could do it justice. It was one of those songs everyone seemed to think they should play. Girls seemed to like it, and that mattered. But few bands could do it well. We had a kid who could play it decently on keys, so that was why we did it when he was available.
Born to be Wild has more parts and is more arranged imo but fme, remains the anthem of pretty much every biker bar around here.....
 
Born to be Wild has more parts and is more arranged imo but fme, remains the anthem of pretty much every biker bar around here.....

We do/ did it-usually toward the end of the night, but as our crowd (and us) gets older, it's a bit rambunctious.
Bering the smrtss* that I am, if we have a particularly aged crowd, I suggest it as our opener. :smug:

*insert "a" where appropriate.
 
totally different bands imho...similarly, heard someone compare Steely Dan to Lynyrd Skynyrd the other day and although I can see how someone would go down that road, (to me) they are apples and oranges.....
Or a Queen Anne setee and two milk crates. 😂
Just kidding!

Dig Skynrd. Don't know why you'd put them in comparable categories, except for expressing a preference in genre.
 
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I just noticed from your pic (and pulling mine) that one pup doesn't have braided shielding but plastic and the ground is internal. Do you know why this might be? Part of the pups being wired in series (or whichever it is)?

Just noticed I also have what looks to be a tiny white ground(?) going to the middle vol pot. Not sure if it's simply a ground or Gibson was being creative. I don't see this on yours. But that may be it going to your tone pot.

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Without going back and looking at mine side by side with yours I’d say they are both wired exactly the same.
The tiny white wire on yours is the bridge ground, mine is bare and an equally tiny wire, it grounds at the tone pot.

AFAIK all bicentennial birds have a vinyl insulated multi lead wire coming from the neck pickup with one wire going to the right lug, one going to the center lug and one grounding out on the pot housing. The bridge pickup is typical shielded metal mesh with a single conductor wire inside the cloth pull back sheath. Mine looks to be non modified but the original installer put some shrink wrap over the bridge mesh wire to keep it from grounding out on a live terminal, otherwise identical to yours.
 
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you play it fingerstyle?
Usually. Sometimes when the guitarist would start it, I'd fumble for the pick-or not. It's one of the very few songs I'd kick in the Rumble's built in O/D. But it's not worth stringing the footswitch for one song we may-or may not-do.
We don't go by a set list; just 'feel' (A-hem?) the crowd.
 
Without going back and looking at mine side by side with yours I’d say they are both wired exactly the same.
The tiny white wire on yours is the bridge ground, mine is bare and an equally tiny wire, it grounds at the tone pot.

AFAIK all bicentennial birds have a vinyl insulated multi lead wire coming from the neck pickup, the bridge pickup is typical shielded metal mesh with a single conductor wire inside the cloth pull back sheath. Mine looks to be non modified but the original installer put some shrink wrap over the bridge mesh wire to keep it from grounding out on a live terminal, otherwise identical to yours.
Assuming that is in fact absolutely original, is there any chance you can draw that wiring up?
And also, being positively original, has the pot value been determined?
 
Without going back and looking at mine side by side with yours I’d say they are both wired exactly the same.
The tiny white wire on yours is the bridge ground, mine is bare and an equally tiny wire, it grounds at the tone pot.

AFAIK all bicentennial birds have a vinyl insulated multi lead wire coming from the neck pickup with one wire going to the right lug, one going to the center lug and one grounding out on the pot housing. The bridge pickup is typical shielded metal mesh with a single conductor wire inside the cloth pull back sheath. Mine looks to be non modified but the original installer put some shrink wrap over the bridge mesh wire to keep it from grounding out on a live terminal, otherwise identical to yours.
Good ol' 'Gibby'-grab whatever from the parts bins. :rollno:
 
totally different bands imho...similarly, heard someone compare Steely Dan to Lynyrd Skynyrd the other day and although I can see how someone would go down that road, (to me) they are apples and oranges.....
Can’t say that thought would have ever crossed my mind with one band being more jazz fusion pop rock with a very hifi airy swirling sound and the other being a straight forward southern rock guitar band.

Now Steely Dan compared to Todd Rundgren or 10cc or maybe even some Fleetwood Mac songs I could see. I’d put the Allman Brothers and .38 special in with LS.
 
Assuming that is in fact absolutely original, is there any chance you can draw that wiring up?
And also, being positively original, has the pot value been determined?
Yes I can draw it up, it’s pretty straight forward but nothing like the 916 schematic. I’ll use the 916 schematic as a basis so you can easily compare the two.

As far as pot value confirmations, I don’t want to pull any pots out of the bi bird to see if I can find a value written on the pot somewhere, don’t want to risk popping a wire off and having to resolder a pristine vintage soldering job.

I do have a multi meter, but I assumed it isn’t possible to measure just the pot value with everything all wired up.
Is that assumption correct?