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Thunderbird Club

Tip Concept: the bigger the tip jar - the more tips! :laugh:
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@TBird1958
It is Valentine’s Day and I’d bet Frank would love one of these!
I'm guessing you could easily skip subtle when managing a project! Talk about a hint with a hammer! :laugh: Well done!

Anxiously awaiting pics from Frank.
 
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I have to agree w/Chucky here - that is some serious recorded music that you had a lot to do with. Get rid of any idea that 'you are not worthy' - a musician is a person who is serious about creating/playing music in whatever form it's manifested and it has nothing to do with money. You rock dude - own it.

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@Ringhammer Yes, knock off the "not worthy or not a musician" thing. I have have that covered with no competition in sight. :laugh:
You can play and serve the music you play great. Nothing more could be asked for. Your bands are fortunate to have you.

Like you, jamming unknown music would make be wet my pants, and heaven for bid some screwball guitar player look over and say, "You take the next break for a solo."
 
Tip Concept: the bigger the tip jar - the more tips! :laugh:
A friend got regular gigs playing solo at a couple of local eateries. She had a 16-20oz plastic tumbler for tips. I bought her a half gallon glass vase and taught her to put a few bills in the bottom to start. Her tips went up.
 
@Ringhammer Yes, knock off the "not worthy or not a musician" thing. I have have that covered with no competition in sight. :laugh:
You can play and serve the music you play great. Nothing more could be asked for. Your bands are fortunate to have you.

Like you, jamming unknown music would make be wet my pants, and heaven for bid some screwball guitar player look over and say, "You take the next break for a solo."
Whereas I’d totally dig being in a Dead tribute band, even when the leader pulled out songs I didn’t know.
 
Whereas I’d totally dig being in a Dead tribute band, even when the leader pulled out songs I didn’t know.
But there are no wrong notes in Dead music! (Of course that is not true. Or mostly not true. :smug: )
I would love that, but would have to be around good friends to minimize the self-conscious weight to some extent. It would be so cool (and good experience) to do that kind of thing.
 
@Ringhammer Yes, knock off the "not worthy or not a musician" thing. I have have that covered with no competition in sight. :laugh:
You can play and serve the music you play great. Nothing more could be asked for. Your bands are fortunate to have you.

Like you, jamming unknown music would make be wet my pants, and heaven for bid some screwball guitar player look over and say, "You take the next break for a solo."
I'm fortunate in that growing up my Dad played in some local (Miami) jazz groups, any where from 4 to 16 pieces so I was listening to multi chord music from early on. Then I took piano listens from age 7 to ~16; played clarinet and sax from ~12 to 18; went into the USN music program on sax/clarinet, 18-22; and 'picked up' (self taught) bass starting in 67. Found out very quickly that I have a good ear for chord progressions and patterns. Also found out that if I'm familiar with the pattern of the changes, it doesn't matter what key it's in (people sitting in often do songs in a non-original key. So do I 'cos of my vocal range).
Most popular R&R tunes of the 60s/70s I've heard enuff times that I can figure out the 'correct' bass line PDQ. And there's the fact that based on my previous experience on piano and the horns, I read- notation or chord charts.

Now if I just had some work.

BTW, for y'all younger guys (I'm 80) that play for no money, have at it and more power to you. Since our band provided everything but the electricity and we're to damn old to schlep all our gear-amps, drums, PA, etc.-for nothing, we don't go out for free. [and 2 free beers doesn't cut it either-I don't drink on the gig] NO BACKLINES OR FOH IN THIS MARKET

Oh. Semi-pro tip/hack: if told to take a solo, play the bass line (assuming it's not 'chugging' root 1/8th notes) up an octave.
 
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I'm fortunate in that growing up my Dad played in some local (Miami) jazz groups, any where from 4 to 16 pieces so I was listening to multi chord music from early on. Then I took piano listens from age 7 to ~16; played clarinet and sax from ~12 to 18; went into the USN music program on sax/clarinet, 18-22; and 'picked up' (self taught) bass starting in 67. Found out very quickly that I have a good ear for chord progressions and patterns. Also found out that if I'm familiar with the pattern of the changes, it doesn't matter what key it's in (people sitting in often do songs in a non-original key. So do I 'cos of my vocal range).
Most popular R&R tunes of the 60s/70s I've heard enuff times that I can figure out the 'correct' bass line PDQ. And there's the fact that based on my previous experience on piano and the horns, I read- notation or chord charts.

Now if I just had some work.

BTW, for y'all younger guys (I'm 80) that play for no money, have at it and more power to you. Since our band provided everything but the electricity and we're to damn old to schlep all our gear-amps, drums, PA, etc.-for nothing, we don't go out for free. [and 2 free beers doesn't cut it either-I don't drink on the gig] NO BACKLINES OR FOH IN THIS MARKET

Oh. Semi-pro tip/hack: if told to take a solo, play the bass line (assuming it's not 'chugging' root 1/8th notes) up an octave.
My artist friend Cork about your age used to actively play music (bass & early electronics/Theremin) in the '60 in SF/Bay Area and has many great stories from that fertile time for music. They had 'residency' gigs in the North Beach strip clubs. I asked him if they rehearsed and he said never - they'd go over new songs after setting up before the night started. Said they knew hundreds of songs and could pull one up at any time. He was young and didn't need a 'real job' because he was playing every day of the week (and twice on Sunday as they say...)and getting paid. It was a different era - SF (and the world) has changed a lot since then.

Cork was playing in bands since the early '60s - this was his later '60s band "The 50' Hose" (Cork dark hair-goatee) They did 1 LP - Caldron... psychedelic in nature if you couldn't tell by their 'threads'... ✌️
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But there are no wrong notes in Dead music! (Of course that is not true. Or mostly not true. :smug: )
I would love that, but would have to be around good friends to minimize the self-conscious weight to some extent. It would be so cool (and good experience) to do that kind of thing.
It's pretty easy to win over new rock based jam-mates as a bass player, or at least easier than being another guitarist. Playing Jazz is another story - you need to be versed in the 'classics'. But I can play 'fake jazz' within an improv session with the best of them. ;) Key is following the drummer and supporting the guitarists until they trust you, or just take you for granted. :laugh: I always have the most latitude locking with the drummer - once we're solid the rest follows.
 
A friend got regular gigs playing solo at a couple of local eateries. She had a 16-20oz plastic tumbler for tips. I bought her a half gallon glass vase and taught her to put a few bills in the bottom to start. Her tips went up.
Yah, the starting out putting money in the jar is a well known lubricant... :)
 
exactly, how you make/pay for requests...
We never required pay for requests. If they wanted to kick in, great, but our job was to keep the patrons happy, thus keeping the managers happy. And us re-booked.
We weren't doing a 'show' or a concert. We got some pretty lame-ass requests over the years, but if we knew it, we'd play it.
In the 70s, when the band I was in booked a wedding/private party, we'd ask if they had any special requests (i.e., first dance, Anniversary Waltz, whatever). We didn't charge 'extra' for that, but our up front fee was enuff compensation so 'stuff' like that was included.