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Thunderbird Club

I'm going to put Thunderbuckers in my Pro V as well, also doing full chrome conversion. The only thing I'm undecided on is electronics. Definitely like the options of active/passive w/passive tone control. Tell me about the Noll preamp you mentioned, I haven't heard of it before.
Contemplating something like this.
NOLL TCM2 Vpp - Bl - T - B - Best Bass Gear
or
Nordstrand 2B-4b - Best Bass Gear

I'm not there on electronics yet. More or less made up my mind on the thunderbuckers. When I buy the thunderbuckers, I may ask for advice there before making a final decision.

I also think I won't do the work myself. I will buy parts then take it to a tech to have everything assembled. As much as I could do it myself, time is valuable...
 
Will,

Stop by The Metta Room or Bar N9NE for entertainment, Sabai Thai for Thai food, or The Gastropub. Where are you staying?
Beats me where we are staying. I understand that Dave has a friend and we will be crashing in her back yard or something like that. It's not like PA is an absolutely enormous place, so it can't be too far away from anything. I'm not nearly as familiar with PA as I am with Sequim.
 
Everything seems wrong about it, I mean really...

Agree with you on all points, except I think the Warwick was best slappin'.
Personally I cant slap for crap, its just not in my talent set or skill set and I am ok with that, I dont even enjoy anything about slapping or popping...maybe thats why I am a metal-head ;-)
I would guess that the Thunderbird Club has the least amount of slappers in it compared to other bass clubs on TB, I hate the sound of slapping bass.
 
Funny thing. Back when I was a drummer, I used to think S&P was just so cool! I was fascinated by it. I learned a little rudimentary stuff & screwed around with it any time I found a bass in my hands. Now that I'm playing bass, I enjoy watching & listening to others do it, but I really have no interest in doing it beyond maybe like little accents here & there. Now I'm way more interested in finding ways to incorporate jazzy elements into blues & rock. I'm a long way off from being performance ready with any of it, but that's the first place my head goes when I sit down to work on anything new.

If there's any one other way i'd like to play, is with a pick.
Just an absoloute hack at it.
But i manage pretty well plucking.
 
Why the heck would anyone slap a 'bird?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I liked the Precision and Thunderbird. Not much surprise there. With the exception of when he was playing the P right down next to the bridge with a pick. I thought that sounded awful. The Jazz sounds whiny and nasal, like a spoiled teenager going through a difficult puberty. I had never thought about a Thumb before, and was surprised to find that it sounds pretty good for the most part. That video did the Ric no favors at all. It sounded a little lifeless. The Stingray sounded OK, but it would never be my first choice.

Shockingly enough, I really liked the sound of the 'Bird slapped and popped. 'Birds and Precisions are what I like, and this just confirmed it. Both have an authority and midrange bark that a bass needs to have. The sounds are different colors, with the P being more red and the 'Bird being more green, but they are what bass should sound like as far as I'm concerned.
 
I liked the Precision and Thunderbird. Not much surprise there. With the exception of when he was playing the P right down next to the bridge with a pick. I thought that sounded awful. The Jazz sounds whiny and nasal, like a spoiled teenager going through a difficult puberty. I had never thought about a Thumb before, and was surprised to find that it sounds pretty good for the most part. That video did the Ric no favors at all. It sounded a little lifeless. The Stingray sounded OK, but it would never be my first choice.

Shockingly enough, I really liked the sound of the 'Bird slapped and popped. 'Birds and Precisions are what I like, and this just confirmed it. Both have an authority and midrange bark that a bass needs to have. The sounds are different colors, with the P being more red and the 'Bird being more green, but they are what bass should sound like as far as I'm concerned.

It's funny how someone in that thread ranked the Thunderbird as "midless".
 
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No it's a Gibson. But I specifically like my action ultra low with no fret buzz and my pickups high for a bit more saturation in my sound. Here's some pics I posted a year ago on this thread showing the action being low enough that it would pin a dime on the 12th fret of the E string with the bass held in playing position...
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I personally like the three point bridge but you have to follow a specific routine to set it properly, otherwise you're just fighting it until either you give or the bridge gives.
Oh maaaannn! I'd kill for action like that! That ain't happnin' on this Goth without goin' down to see Pete at Rainbow (local neck wizard). The nut is just too janky. I haven't tried it... but I'm not even sure I could pin a quarter at the first fret! The nut slots for the E & D, leave the strings way too high, I could drive a bus under the A string, and the G string, though still too high, is cut lower than the rest. I've got the feeling that this thing skated under the radar at final inspection. None of these issues are "life threatening". This is my 'bird, and I ain't turning' loose of it! This is just how we're gettin' to know each other. I've only had one guitar that I couldn't get workable. I forget exactly what year it was... but it was a 7ender Strat from the '70s (3 bolt w/"micro-tilt adjustment"). The previous owner had kept it in his non-climate controlled barn for years. I'm sure a luthier was able to get it workable again, but it was beyond my limited capabilities. I had traded a $350.00 Epi Les Paul jr. for it, and sold it to Elderly instruments for $750, so that was still a win for me!:thumbsup:
 
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Why the heck would anyone slap a 'bird?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I loved the Thunderbird and the Fender P but I gotta say there must be some conspiracy going on with the Ric's presentation as everyone knows a Ric sounds a hell of a lot better than that. Its like the Ric authorities put a copyright on sound samples for anyone not affiliated with Rickenbacker that wants to provide sound samples. Its like they dumbed down the tone, my Chickenbacker sounds way better than that.
 
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Are people idiots or something? I have been checking the Long & McQuade website to see when the new JC and Thunderbirds are available for order. It is nice that you can sort by newness, so the newly added items are first. Yesterday, there shows up a squier starter kit for C$400. It containing a squier affinity PJ, rumble 15 and "accessories" - a strap and 10' cable. Or you could buy the bass for C$270, the amp for C$100. So, C$30 for a cable and strap? Those can be had for a total of about C$20 or less.

So, by my math, you are paying C$10 for a cardboard box. This is just the latest example I have noticed (but the current musical one). What is wrong with people that they don't do the math and figure out that they are further ahead to buy components separately?

Ignore the fact that for C$10 less, you can get a Yamaha TRBX 174 or for C$10 more you can get an Ibanez Talman. IMO both much better than the squier.
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Consider it a "convenience fee"...
 
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It's funny how someone in that thread ranked the Thunderbird as "midless".
It did sound like the 'Bird was turned down a bit. I would be interested to know what strings they had on all of 'em. I think my '01 sounds better than that '10 by a lot. It may come down to strings. Then again, that '01 just has some pixie dust in it that nothing else quite has. I guess it's the one I'll be buried with.
 
It did sound like the 'Bird was turned down a bit. I would be interested to know what strings they had on all of 'em. I think my '01 sounds better than that '10 by a lot. It may come down to strings. Then again, that '01 just has some pixie dust in it that nothing else quite has. I guess it's the one I'll be buried with.

It is challenging to do a double blind trial with musical instruments (but not impossible as the Stardivarius and Guernica violin trials have demonstrated). But at a minimum, each instrument needs the same fresh strings, the same set up, and same EQ. It would also help to have multiple examples of each instrument (but I am asking a lot of youtube/internet).
 
u know what i hate the most...
when i wanna check out an amp or pedal review, but the guy slaps through the entire video.
like what's the point of it!?
And the ones that kill me are where the guy has the volume on so low that you can hear him breathing as you hear the clanking of the bass strings as if it were unplugged. C'mon man!, Really?!.
 
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Are people idiots or something? I have been checking the Long & McQuade website to see when the new JC and Thunderbirds are available for order. It is nice that you can sort by newness, so the newly added items are first. Yesterday, there shows up a squier starter kit for C$400. It containing a squier affinity PJ, rumble 15 and "accessories" - a strap and 10' cable. Or you could buy the bass for C$270, the amp for C$100. So, C$30 for a cable and strap? Those can be had for a total of about C$20 or less.

So, by my math, you are paying C$10 for a cardboard box. This is just the latest example I have noticed (but the current musical one). What is wrong with people that they don't do the math and figure out that they are further ahead to buy components separately?

Ignore the fact that for C$10 less, you can get a Yamaha TRBX 174 or for C$10 more you can get an Ibanez Talman. IMO both much better than the squier.
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Couple reasons: first, it's all in the box. Ten bucks for easy. Second, it's easier to wrap one box for a present than several of them. Still a decent deal for a starter kit.
 
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I too am eyeing the new Epi vintage pro birds...anyone have any insight as to how the pickups in the new vintage pros might compare to the pickups in my Silverburst? The Silverburst buckers are hot and growly and sound really good. I am almost convinced to sell the Silverburst to get the new vintage pro but hope the tone is at least on par.





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Wait. Unless you can swing having both, wait and see how you like the new one.
 
It did sound like the 'Bird was turned down a bit. I would be interested to know what strings they had on all of 'em. I think my '01 sounds better than that '10 by a lot. It may come down to strings. Then again, that '01 just has some pixie dust in it that nothing else quite has. I guess it's the one I'll be buried with.

It is challenging to do a double blind trial with musical instruments (but not impossible as the Stardivarius and Guernica violin trials have demonstrated). But at a minimum, each instrument needs the same fresh strings, the same set up, and same EQ. It would also help to have multiple examples of each instrument (but I am asking a lot of youtube/internet).

@PillO I agree for the most part except the EQ to a degree, this goes for that video too, unless the EQ is flat, you cannot use the same EQ, a Jazz and Thunderbird are two completely different creatures. This is why people think Thunderbirds sound "muddy", they have the amp setup for what they normally use, I'm not saying it can't be done it depends on your setup and EQ. If you've played a Tbird all your life and then plug a Jazz into your rig, it'll probably sound like poo. At least that's what I think and how I feel. It's my story and I'm sticking to it.