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Thanks @bylar13, for your thoughtful and candid response. Great answer. Not too long for me. Man, 8 songs in 3 1/2 hours sounds REALLY efficient to me.
Answering your original question.

It depends on the band. I play in a cover band and play what was on the original recording for the most part. There are little embellishments here and there, and sometimes sneaking off into the weeds is OK, but mostly, it's just sticking fairly close to the original.

I play bass in a couple other bands that don't write music but also don't play covers. We do what we do, and my bass playing is whatever the song seems like it needs. It's not always the same every time. That's a whole lot of fun so long as lack of discipline doesn't get too thick.

I'm the drummer in the fourth and final band. We do originals and the arrangements happen organically. We start jamming and it turns into a song. Or not. Then I have to remember what I did, and that can be tough sometimes. If we play it once, decide it's going to turn into a song, and then forget to record it onto a cell phone or something, it can be a real challenge to remember how it goes.

As far as training, I took piano lessons as a kid and understand music theory from that. No lessons on bass or guitar. I picked up drums recently, so I take lessons to jump start the learning curve. I read music in some basic way and can read tabs, but I can't sight read. I can read charts easily enough to pick up songs quickly and figure out riffs by ear fast enough that it's not much of a problem. It's just practice, not any kind of great talent.
 
Gibson is in bankruptcy so they have issues. Apparently the current state of rosewood restriction was a result of them buying from a restricted country after first complying. This has most like already been covered here.
Geez, thanks a lot, Gibson.

Kat's pedal is on the same ship. It's been on a trailer crossing the continent. They keep having to reroute it because the ship won't fit under bridges and power lines.
Which pedal?
 
It's just practice, not any kind of great talent.
Thanks for sharing. I get what you are saying but I think you are being a bit modest, with regards to talent. I believe that being able to play bass AND drums is not just a product of practice, having good rhythm and knowing music theory. You don't have to be Bonzo or Keith Moon to consider it a talent.
 
State of the Rig, December 2017. Also have a 1200s 6x12 and another 2000s 2x15 to retolex and load with speakers. One day I'll have to run the 'Bird through all of them at the same time.

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Answering your original question.

It depends on the band. I play in a cover band and play what was on the original recording for the most part. There are little embellishments here and there, and sometimes sneaking off into the weeds is OK, but mostly, it's just sticking fairly close to the original.

I play bass in a couple other bands that don't write music but also don't play covers. We do what we do, and my bass playing is whatever the song seems like it needs. It's not always the same every time. That's a whole lot of fun so long as lack of discipline doesn't get too thick.

I'm the drummer in the fourth and final band. We do originals and the arrangements happen organically. We start jamming and it turns into a song. Or not. Then I have to remember what I did, and that can be tough sometimes. If we play it once, decide it's going to turn into a song, and then forget to record it onto a cell phone or something, it can be a real challenge to remember how it goes.

As far as training, I took piano lessons as a kid and understand music theory from that. No lessons on bass or guitar. I picked up drums recently, so I take lessons to jump start the learning curve. I read music in some basic way and can read tabs, but I can't sight read. I can read charts easily enough to pick up songs quickly and figure out riffs by ear fast enough that it's not much of a problem. It's just practice, not any kind of great talent.
Sneaking off into the weeds eh?, one of my favorite past times but in order for me to play a gig I have to steer clear of the weed.......... until the set is done:laugh:
 
I know that there are probably other forums for this but I would be curious to hear a little about "the creative process". For example, how much were you (the bass player) involved in the crafting of the songs and creative license in your basslines? I would also be interested to hear if you have a formal background/training in music (or if self-taught like many of us)?

Sorry if this is lame but this can be so different than being in a cover band, which is most of my experience.

p.s.
Others can chime in with their experiences on this too, as I know we have a ton of experienced talent in this forum.
Definitely NOT lame!!! "Lame", is pukin' out a couple loops on a Mac, posting it on the web where it goes viral... 3 months later you've got a record deal, 2 years later yer found dead from a heroin overdose in a $30,000.00 per night hotel room 20 minutes away from home, layin' a pool of vomit next to a hooker who died trying to snort the last of your coke off your corpse before she could take off with your wallet and watch... THAT is lame! What you're talking about, is almost as beautiful as creating life itself! The most fun I had writing the best songs... was when we were just jamming. I'd show up to practice, and the guitar player's already noodling away. I would wander in & kinda catch on to something he was doing & start fiddling with a rhythm underneath it (on drums), then the bass player would set up his gear & jump in. One by one everybody joined in on the jam. My favorite nights were when the singer didn't show. There were times where those jams would stretch on for an hour or more. As the drummer, I would play with the dynamics and feel. The guitar player might call out "go to D" or some such a thing. We just grooved. Played what we felt. The jam would kinda morph & twist as we'd catch on to little somethings that somebody did. When the juices were flowin'... maaaaaan... there's just nothin' like it! We learned early on... "record everything"!!! Sometimes we'd walk out of those situations with a new tune mosta the way done... but more commonly, one (or some) of us would be listening back to the rehearsal when something would grab us. Fire would meet fuel! We wrote a lotta great songs no one will ever hear. The happiest I have ever felt in my entire life, was when I was doing that! If I were forced to chose between never experiencing sex again, or never experiencing the creation of musical life... I'd say with absolute certainty, and without hyperbole or hesitation... "Gimme the knife... I'll cut it off, myself".
 
Gibson is in bankruptcy so they have issues. Apparently the current state of rosewood restriction was a result of them buying from a restricted country after first complying. This has most like already been covered here.
Just thought this was interesting: Had NPR on the other day, and apparently China has a monster furniture market and they really like stuff made out of Rosewood. They've taken a significant (read: huge) chunk of the harvesting.
Many exporters even try to pass off raw wood as finished product, to get it by certain gauntlets.
But yep, this had been run down pretty well here.
 
It's a TC Vortex flanger. Decided (mild) flanging suits what I want to do more than chorus.
A guitar player in Plan 9 also plays bass in another band, and uses a Univibe pedal for that gig. A mild-ish flange-like effect, it cops the effect of a rotating speaker you can mix into your signal. I like that one.
I gave my younger kid a Boss digital delay last Christmas but she's not playing her viola these days, so I'm bringing it to rehearsal next time to kick it around. I do like some of that flangey effect sometimes...