Thunderbird Club

[JJR58]

Thank you. I will. I’d be interested to hear anything you have to say, in relation to some of the subjects I touched on or anything else maybe in a PM. Sounds like I sparked something with you. Maybe I just have the opposite problem than everyone else, too much shallow conversation in daily life and not enough meaningful conversation anywhere else.

Shallow conversations are wonderful in their own right but some people I’d like to believe, are just teeming with so much more... no matter how trivial the conversation it can spark a great outpouring of information, well formed into a significant concept.

For those who do, even when they try not to, they find inspiration and realization in the most unexpected places as it over flows at every opportunity, unable to speak plainly. A constant reminder that maybe there’s more to them... more that needs tending to, maybe they should be doing something different if their life is not currently a significant and positive outlet for that creative and intellectual energy.

So there you have it. Thanks for being a forum through which that realization is reinforced. I think I shall find a better place and use for it.

“Watch your thoughts for they become words. Watch your words for they become actions. Watch your actions for they become…habits. Watch your habits, for they become your character. And watch your character, for it becomes your destiny! What we think we become.”

Well, i can certainly relate to shallow conversation out there in the world.
I want no part of any of that.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

The Rotten Kid is scary in lots of ways.

Some scary associates too

 

[JJR58]

There's this in the classifieds right now. See, once in a blue moon i have something Bird related.

For Sale - Gibson Thunderbird

 

[Inky13]

Gibson Bass Book coolness...............Dang, I need to make another trip to Frankfurt.

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I really liked that blue Grabber! I believe you said it was a special color?

 

[Markamb1]

Some years ago I thought about selling my '67 NR Bird. A guy at Sam Ash in Margate,FL,(a Mosrite fan)said to go home and play it before making a decision. I did-and I didn't sell it. Thanks, Dennis, for the advice.

That’s really cool. Too bad most would rather take the deal.

I would add to what you posted with this: the wood in vintage instruments was already older than what's currently harvested. It just vibrates differently, which is why Yammyhaw spent many millions of dollars developing technology that "artificially ages" their woods. If you look at a very old piece of wood, be it neck or body, you'll see much more layers to the grain. It was already older before it was harvested. The neck on my 1988 Charvel and my 2014 Sterling are night and day in terms of how much tighter the grain of the wood is, even though they're both maple with a rosewood fingerboard. New in 88 the Charvel was roughly what the Sterling is new today, but the Charvel came out of Matsumoku in Japan and the Sterling from some random factory in China.

That’s a very valid point. Good thought to consider....the curing of the wood from Death is different than the Live age of the tree. Same species of wood though...tighter patterns should just refer to steady environment and slow stable growth as opposed to leaps and bounds compared to bad weather and droughts...like muscles though you want nice steady build not a steroid jump of low quality muscle.

Thanks for the thought.

I haven't tried that approach, arguing with radical feminists..........
Not a politics related reply, just, oh, as usual, nevermind.

It works as long as you have thoughtful, rational angles to argue. I get pretty into a girl that can argue with me and be right... the more complex the conversation the greater my interest. Goes both ways.

Well, i can certainly relate to shallow conversation out there in the world.
I want no part of any of that.

I think some people work in fields that may satisfy that intellectual itch. So when they come here they just was to relax and goof around. I get it.

 

[TBird1958]

I really liked that blue Grabber! I believe you said it was a special color?

'74 Mustang Blue

 

[JJR58]

Not sure what got into me to post this. Besides i love this tune.
Oh, it's a random rambling from jeff.

 

[Markamb1]

Have I mentioned that my Blackbird smells like camping? Either smoke damage or a room with a fireplace or a house with a wood stove....I love the smell....literally smells like when you’re in a tent. Also the neck is thinner than thunderbirds at least new thunderbirds.

Maybe the last owner liked to camp fire jam on electric....honestly if it wasn’t for the smoke smell that you’d never get out of some of your stuff....(not that I care obviously) jamming on electric around a fire would be wild.

 

[GonePlaid]

Not sure what got into me to post this. Besides i love this tune.
Oh, it's a random rambling from jeff.

Well, that's something new.

 

[JJR58]

Well, that's something new.

Just keeping up appearances.

 

[ToddOfThunder]

Have I mentioned that my Blackbird smells like camping? Either smoke damage or a room with a fireplace or a house with a wood stove....I love the smell....literally smells like when you’re in a tent. Also the neck is thinner than thunderbirds at least new thunderbirds.

Maybe the last owner liked to camp fire jam on electric....honestly if it wasn’t for the smoke smell that you’d never get out of some of your stuff....(not that I care obviously) jamming on electric around a fire would be wild.

I can honestly say that my bird sounds better unplugged than my Dean acoustic does.

 

[Markamb1]

I know what you mean....I play lots of basses in stores.... go home and pickup the blackbird unplugged and think forget those other basses. The Zombie in BEAD Shakes!!!!! Though.

 

[ToddOfThunder]

I know what you mean....I play lots of basses in stores.... one home and pickup the blackbird unplugged and think forget those other basses. The Zombie in BEAD Shakes!!!!! Though.

Fo sho

 

[Markamb1]

Been thinking..

I often disregard or forget my audience and peers.... years ago I walked into a shoe store after much online debate and with the same air of technical discussion.....

I asked the high school/university aged girl....

“can you tell me the reason for the recent decline in the availability of skate shoes”

She looked at me like an alien cuz a f*ing was.....until I caught myself, laughed it off and said

“how come no one sells skate shoes anymore?”

I’m working on it. Lol

 

[Gaolee]

Jim Bescott in the KTels was amazing. This video has the added bonus of the Dishrags dancing in it:

It didn’t take long for the Ktel corporation to threaten them and they changed their name to the Young Canadians.

I was actually in fvkkin Hawaii for the last few days. It's a pretty good place to be, but not at all a punk kind of place. I never liked Hawaiian music that much, but it makes perfect sense there.

 

[Gaolee]

There's this in the classifieds right now. See, once in a blue moon i have something Bird related.

For Sale - Gibson Thunderbird

It looks like a nice bass, but man, that bridge looks awful! I'm sure it works, but jeez!

 

[Gaolee]

I would add to what you posted with this: the wood in vintage instruments was already older than what's currently harvested. It just vibrates differently, which is why Yammyhaw spent many millions of dollars developing technology that "artificially ages" their woods. If you look at a very old piece of wood, be it neck or body, you'll see much more layers to the grain. It was already older before it was harvested. The neck on my 1988 Charvel and my 2014 Sterling are night and day in terms of how much tighter the grain of the wood is, even though they're both maple with a rosewood fingerboard. New in 88 the Charvel was roughly what the Sterling is new today, but the Charvel came out of Matsumoku in Japan and the Sterling from some random factory in China.

Good points. If you think about the way wood grows, older growth wood didn't grow as fast and is a bit denser. Newer growth wood is softer. Also, when you think about the chemistry of wood, it's cellulose, which, as I understand it, is a polymer. The cellulose polymer slowly crystallizes over time, starting pretty much right away. If you fell a 200 year old tree, the heartwood will be denser and more crystallized than the heartwood of a 100 year old tree. Further, if you build a guitar, the wood does not magically stop doing its thing just because it is now guitar shaped.

All that is fine and good. I'm not sure it matters all that much. There was an experiment some years ago using Stradivarius violins and extremely high quality modern violins. Some may have been carbon fiber. The test was a blind test, and a number of world class violin virtuosos played the instruments and rated them. Without fail, they rated the modern instruments higher in all ways.

Screw age. I'm not as good as I was, either. Oh, well. I still kinda want a Thunderbird II if one ever turns up for a price I'm even remotely willing to pay. Fat chance of that!

 

[Markamb1]

I heard polymer gets a good sustain like on the fretlight guitars. The owner claimed that polymer is superior to wood in resonance and sustain

Good points. If you think about the way wood grows, older growth wood didn't grow as fast and is a bit denser. Newer growth wood is softer. Also, when you think about the chemistry of wood, it's cellulose, which, as I understand it, is a polymer. The cellulose polymer slowly crystallizes over time, starting pretty much right away. If you fell a 200 year old tree, the heartwood will be denser and more crystallized than the heartwood of a 100 year old tree. Further, if you build a guitar, the wood does not magically stop doing its thing just because it is now guitar shaped.

All that is fine and good. I'm not sure it matters all that much. There was an experiment some years ago using Stradivarius violins and extremely high quality modern violins. Some may have been carbon fiber. The test was a blind test, and a number of world class violin virtuosos played the instruments and rated them. Without fail, they rated the modern instruments higher in all ways.

Screw age. I'm not as good as I was, either. Oh, well. I still kinda want a Thunderbird II if one ever turns up for a price I'm even remotely willing to pay. Fat chance of that!

 

[RedVee]

Good points. If you think about the way wood grows, older growth wood didn't grow as fast and is a bit denser. Newer growth wood is softer. Also, when you think about the chemistry of wood, it's cellulose, which, as I understand it, is a polymer. The cellulose polymer slowly crystallizes over time, starting pretty much right away. If you fell a 200 year old tree, the heartwood will be denser and more crystallized than the heartwood of a 100 year old tree. Further, if you build a guitar, the wood does not magically stop doing its thing just because it is now guitar shaped.

All that is fine and good. I'm not sure it matters all that much. There was an experiment some years ago using Stradivarius violins and extremely high quality modern violins. Some may have been carbon fiber. The test was a blind test, and a number of world class violin virtuosos played the instruments and rated them. Without fail, they rated the modern instruments higher in all ways.

Screw age. I'm not as good as I was, either. Oh, well. I still kinda want a Thunderbird II if one ever turns up for a price I'm even remotely willing to pay. Fat chance of that!

Yeah, me too. But this the one I’m most likely to afford...

(A model thereof)

 

[Larry V]

is this still the Thunderbird club?

Maybe it should be called the Thunderbird+ club

or the Anything But Thunderbird club

This is where the cool kids hang out. Some get it, some don't.