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#122,221
Miles_ONeal said:
In many cases, at least in the US, it has multiple roots.
1. Society expects you to become an expert (or at least competent in something and do that forever. This is stupid, and many people would say otherwise, but it's a systemic issue.
2. By the time many people reach the point of wanting to change, they feel trapped monetarily. They have a big mortgage, cars, and other debts that they can't afford if they chuck their lucrative (however much it is) career and start over.
2a. Some people just don't want to give up their current left of comfort.
3. The pressure from #2 can increase by an order of magnitude for those who spouse/domestic partner/etc. expects/wants to stay at the same level or move up more quickly, or for those who have kids and don't want to "deprive them".
4. Many men get a big part of their identity from their jobs. If they're not "successful", they need to fight until they are to prove themselves. If they feel successful, going back to a place of having to prove themselves is terrifying. Not only will other people be judging them (perception- perhaps true, perhaps not) but what if they fail, at least to be as successful as before? Because ultimately they're judging themselves by the stupid standards noted above.
4a. This also means giving up whatever power you have accumulated (or think you have accumulated).

I'm probably forgetting something.

I realize this isn't universal, but I've seen it enough to know this set of factors covers an awful lot of people.
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Yes, I understand all of that intellectually, but I can't understand how any of those trump happiness and personal fulfillment. And I suspect that is part of why I am an entrepreneur...
 
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And just because, here's the Voice of the Beehive, despite the lack of buzz here over the name:



You'll have to turn the bass up to hear it. It clearly wasn't the producer's favorite thing.

This and "There's a Barbarian in the Back of my Car" were the songs I heard on WRAS in 1990-91 that got me into them.
 
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Recording rock tracks this weekend with these two. The producer wants the attack of a pick, so attack is what he is getting!
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#122,228
Count Bassie said:
Ok, looking at involvement with a Cream/Mountain/Bluesbreakers idea in my neighborhood, with a really talented guitar player I was in a band with four a while, 15 or so years ago. Seeking a drummer... hey, @fasterpussycat , got any advice??

*My heart still sinks a little on it's way out to you, when I think of that post of yours*
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There is a reason I took up drums. Turns out it is fun.
 
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Count Bassie said:
Love drums too. My first axe, led to bass I think.
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For me it was piano > guitar > bass guitar > bass fiddle > drums. I don't play piano these days, although I think about picking it up again. There's only so much time, and I have to waste some of it here.

I spent almost all afternoon and evening with my wife, an old friend who I used to play with, and her current boyfriend. She's quit drinking, which is a very good thing. It also means far less drama and entertainment, but the lack of drama sure makes up for the lower entertainment level. She's still completely nuts. So that's good. We may start playing together again. That makes me happy. She has a very good voice and a whole lot of creativity.

I spent a couple hours yesterday playing drums with a band who want to do several Led Zeppelin songs. Say what you will about Led Zeppelin, Bonham is quite a drummer to take on. So that's going to be fun, too. Life is good. I'll probably get struck by lightening, but I'll get fried happy if it happens.
 
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Gaolee said:
For me it was piano > guitar > bass guitar > bass fiddle > drums. I don't play piano these days, although I think about picking it up again. There's only so much time, and I have to waste some of it here.
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Trombone > guitar > percussion > bass

I played around with piano through a lot of that journey, but not enough to count. At some point I attempted to play nearly every instrument our marching band had. It reinforced my conviction to play trombone.

Awesome about your friend cleaning up her life. Hope that goes well for y’all!
 
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Gaolee said:
There is a reason I took up drums. Turns out it is fun.
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Count Bassie said:
Love drums too. My first axe, led to bass I think.
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Gaolee said:
For me it was piano > guitar > bass guitar > bass fiddle > drums. I don't play piano these days, although I think about picking it up again. There's only so much time, and I have to waste some of it here.

I spent almost all afternoon and evening with my wife, an old friend who I used to play with, and her current boyfriend. She's quit drinking, which is a very good thing. It also means far less drama and entertainment, but the lack of drama sure makes up for the lower entertainment level. She's still completely nuts. So that's good. We may start playing together again. That makes me happy. She has a very good voice and a whole lot of creativity.

I spent a couple hours yesterday playing drums with a band who want to do several Led Zeppelin songs. Say what you will about Led Zeppelin, Bonham is quite a drummer to take on. So that's going to be fun, too. Life is good. I'll probably get struck by lightening, but I'll get fried happy if it happens.
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Miles_ONeal said:
Trombone > guitar > percussion > bass

I played around with piano through a lot of that journey, but not enough to count. At some point I attempted to play nearly every instrument our marching band had. It reinforced my conviction to play trombone.

Awesome about your friend cleaning up her life. Hope that goes well for y’all!
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I think my journey was different from everyone else's... Just like everything else, I have a very different approach.

Music theory -> keyboard (to understand the concepts) -> bass.

I started reading music theory because I had never learned any music and well, life long learning. In reading theory, to really understand some concepts, I needed tones so the cheap keyboard I inherited from my Dad (who never played it, long story) got pulled out. I realized that to properly understand theory, I found that I really needed to take on an instrument. After several weeks of listening critically to music and thinking about what I wanted to accomplish in music, I decided that bass was my instrument.

Some of the elements of that decision:
Much of the music I studied has a strong groove and the bass carries the groove
Lots of people (claim to) play guitar/keyboard, comparatively few play bass, so there is plenty of opportunity to find people to play with
Plenty of chordal instruments can be played sloppily and sound OK, but for bass, you have to play with precision
Geddy, Lemmy, Bootsy
No one ever yells "turn up the treble"
 
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