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Anyone with an old hard shell case find the tolex, or whatever that is on the outside, get kinda tacky or sticky? That's how the Eagle's is. Hoping something I have in the house can clean that.

Start with an alcohol swap if you have any to test an area. If that works for you, get a rag and a bottle of isopropyl alcohol and go to town.
 
I had no idea that Peavey was in financial trouble. I know a little abut CAGP - they are one the companies called in to liquidate assets when a company is in liquidation (chapter 7 bankrupty). I'm not suggesting that they are bankrupt, but this indicates at a minimum a big plant closure.
I think this all a part of why the "Undercover Boss" episode p.o.'ed me so much.(to refresh)After proudly pointing out their stuff was made in Meridian, MS, they moved almost everything to China(?)and now they're selling off all the stuff in the MS factory. Kinda don't need it anymore, might as well get something for it-then write it all off at a "loss".:rolleyes:
 
Anyone with an old hard shell case find the tolex, or whatever that is on the outside, get kinda tacky or sticky? That's how the Eagle's is. Hoping something I have in the house can clean that.

Hard to know what it might be. It could be polyisobutylene coming out. Polyisobutylene is used in various rubbery compounds to make them grippy and/or sticky. It is used in some (but not all) adhesives that are intended to stay gummy such as the glue used in bandaids. I can be used in plastics of various descriptions to enhance grip with applications such as steering wheels in cars. So, there could be polyisobutylene in the adhesive holding the tolex or it could be incorporated into the tolex itself.

Allergy to polyisobutylene is not uncommon. I am one that is allergic. Short contact is not a problem, but longer contact can result in lichenated plaques. Sometimes it can easy to work out the source (such as a bandaid), but other sources - steering wheels, pens, computer mouse/keyboard - can be difficult and tedious to work out.
 
I think this all a part of why the "Undercover Boss" episode p.o.'ed me so much.(to refresh)After proudly pointing out their stuff was made in Meridian, MS, they moved almost everything to China(?)and now they're selling off all the stuff in the MS factory. Kinda don't need it anymore, might as well get something for it-then write it all off at a "loss".:rolleyes:
The Undercover Boss episode was 5 years ago. I had a quick look and local news in Meridian MS indicates that there are layoffs at the plant again.
 
I know these had to be destroyed, but it's still hard to watch.

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A couple of things...

I saw somewhere (source not handy right now) that this is not a new video - it was recorded a couple of years ago.

Do you feel the same when a classic car is wrecked (for a movie, on the highway, in a car crusher)?

Do you feel the same when a musician purposely destroys an instrument?


No judgement; just curious.

There are some (of course) putting an anti-Gibson spin on this. Many manufactured goods are destroyed each year for many reasons (including life-saving medicines which are in short supply because they are outside spec or for which quality/quantity of active ingredient is no longer certain). It doesn't matter who agrees or not; it is the sole decision of the owner of the things to decide the disposition (as long as you agree that property rights are a thing).

I have no feelings about any of this - they are just things. A bit of Buddhism goes a long way - you do not own your things, they own you.
 
I think this all a part of why the "Undercover Boss" episode p.o.'ed me so much.(to refresh)After proudly pointing out their stuff was made in Meridian, MS, they moved almost everything to China(?)and now they're selling off all the stuff in the MS factory. Kinda don't need it anymore, might as well get something for it-then write it all off at a "loss".:rolleyes:
only to have to relocate back to the US (like has happened to more than one musical instrument manufacturer) due to QA issues. Chinese product can be of exceptional quality but it has to be tightly QC'd and this equates to less than anticipated cost reduction..
 
A couple of things...

I saw somewhere (source not handy right now) that this is not a new video - it was recorded a couple of years ago.

Do you feel the same when a classic car is wrecked (for a movie, on the highway, in a car crusher)?

Do you feel the same when a musician purposely destroys an instrument?


No judgement; just curious.

There are some (of course) putting an anti-Gibson spin on this. Many manufactured goods are destroyed each year for many reasons (including life-saving medicines which are in short supply because they are outside spec or for which quality/quantity of active ingredient is no longer certain). It doesn't matter who agrees or not; it is the sole decision of the owner of the things to decide the disposition (as long as you agree that property rights are a thing).

I have no feelings about any of this - they are just things. A bit of Buddhism goes a long way - you do not own your things, they own you.

the EU burns tons of perfectly good fresh produce every year to keep prices where they should be....

Funny video...loads of FSOs...Pete Townshend being grabbed by the head at the end takes it..:roflmao:
 
only to have to relocate back to the US (like has happened to more than one musical instrument manufacturer) due to QA issues. Chinese product can be of exceptional quality but it has to be tightly QC'd and this equates to less than anticipated cost reduction..

The bitterness of poor quality is felt long after the sweetness of a low price has faded...

The most famous quality guru
Philip B. Crosby - Wikipedia
who is widely quoted as saying that "Quality Is Free". But few add the rejoinder "for those willing to pay for it to be done right the first time".


You are absolutely correct WRT to Chinese manufacturing. It can be done well if it is budgeted to be. But the cost advantage quickly dissipates. China still has a manufacturing advantage but it is handling toxic materials; it is the combination of loose environmental standards and a disregard for occupational safety.
 
Bad ideas and destruction. Plus cars. What you shouldn't do with an ill-handling 1960s muscle car.



I have an amusing story (for another time) about the movie Bullitt and Siri...

When I lived in Silicon Valley and people were visiting, I would often take them for a drive around San Francisco. Often, people think that Bullitt and other films/TV use careful camera angles to make the hills appear steep. But after driving a little and realizing that you really can't see the traffic past the intersection because the hill is that steep, they were rather impressed. Even more impressive, I was taking them up and down those hills in my car with a manual transmission.
 
This is a creative bunch. Any thoughts on how feasible it would be to make some black piece of plastic, ebony, whatever, to cover this side of the pickup ring to use for a thumb rest, using the existing pickup ring screw holes so as not to make any irreversible modifications to the bass? There's a lip on the pickup ring, but it's low enough to the body that there's too much a stretch for me. This is all assuming that lowering the action doesn't bring the strings more within reach. @JIO ? Anyone else?

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This is a creative bunch. Any thoughts on how feasible it would be to make some black piece of plastic, ebony, whatever, to cover this side of the pickup ring to use for a thumb rest, using the existing pickup ring screw holes so as not to make any irreversible modifications to the bass? There's a lip on the pickup ring, but it's low enough to the body that there's too much a stretch for me. This is all assuming that lowering the action doesn't bring the strings more within reach. @JIO ? Anyone else?

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Initial thought is use a piece of black perspex with a couple of holes in it, but then it might get in the way of the E string.