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I can't agree that the Classics are better than the Gibsons I have (two Gibsons, '13 and '14... and two Classics here,) but they're pretty close... especially considering the prices.

Well, all I can speak for are the examples that I compared the Classic IV to (which were a couple of 2015s and one 2014) when I was shopping around for a T-Bird. My original plan was to get a Gibson bird, but once I tried the Classic, there was nothing that could touch it in terms of tone and playability (and I won't even get into finish issues). I'm just saying; to me the Epi was better than the Gibsons that *I* encountered... And I got to save $1000.
 
I'll compare build and finish quality of a Gibby Bird with a Fender as soon as Fender comes out with a neck through bass made largely of mahogany with an open grain finish. Until then it's apples and oranges. Completely different construction techniques, materials and finish methods. Might as well claim that Fender finishes aren't nearly as smooth and uniform as Dan Armstrong Lucite basses, makes as much sense.

All that said, the finish work on Gibsons high end guitars is quite nice compared to their lower cost models, same goes for Fender custom shop vs their USA standard series. And interestingly enough, both Squier and Eppiphone have excellent finish levels - probably due to the fact that finishing is a very labour and time intensive process, which is a much more affordable endeavor where highly skilled cheap labor exists (hint, not readily available in the USA).
 
Yup. Gibson guitars are my favorite designs, I always end up perusing them when I'm in a shop. The high end ones and custom shop models are some of the nicest instruments I've seen. But their mid-level offerings and under just have abysmal finish issues. I'd only buy Gibson in person, trying it in store. Even my Zebrabird has finish issues, namely near where the fingerboard ends there's some discoloration to the finish, which is almost impressive given that the model doesn't even have a clear coat (natural wood with oil finish I believe). It almost looks like someone got a bit to overzealous with the sanding. My 90s Epiphone Les Paul Elite (semi-hollow Les Paul Custom) is nicer than many mid-range Gibsons I've seen in the last decade.

Speaking of Zebrabird... What did you actually end up doing with it?
I seem to recall it had a broken headstock, and you were considering making it into a Fenderbird at one point...
 
Speaking of Zebrabird... What did you actually end up doing with it?
I seem to recall it had a broken headstock, and you were considering making it into a Fenderbird at one point...

Not I. Mine's a case queen really, the only damage to it is a ding on the headstock due to a clumsy saxophone player from back in my high school jazz band days. I've contemplated selling it once or twice, but I don't think I could ever bring myself to do it. Even though I don't play it too much (I really don't care for TB+ pickups), I love how it looks (even if it doesn't have a vintage chromed out look), it's definitely my most exotic looking bass. But I prefer the new Greco II to it sounding and look-wise.
 
Our DVD library contains many Finnish fillums and also the entire Jarmusch œuvre. Finnish is is such a curious, deadpan sounding language.

In Thunderbird news - abalone speed knobs arrived yesterday and put them on the Bird last night. Waiting on the chrome bridge and will order the tuners soon. Really hoping they'll be an exact match for the stock tuners, as I'd rather not be filling and drilling.
 
Our DVD library contains many Finnish fillums and also the entire Jarmusch œuvre. Finnish is is such a curious, deadpan sounding language.

In Thunderbird news - abalone speed knobs arrived yesterday and put them on the Bird last night. Waiting on the chrome bridge and will order the tuners soon. Really hoping they'll be an exact match for the stock tuners, as I'd rather not be filling and drilling.
Do you remember the chef from the Muppets?

Hoping my tuners will be here this weekend, still not arrived
 
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Gratuitous shots... and I'll add:. THIS is a bass guitar. Big ol' slab of wood, sounds like a couple tons of something really cool landing in your back yard...
 
My beef with current Gibsons is that they're pushing 600 instruments a week out of a factory designed for 400 a week. If you buy a new one, examine it VERY closely, specifically for finish flaws. Gibson's pre-finish sanding has been generally poor for the last, oh, 30 years. You'll see this as ripples in the finish and bubbles in the finish at joints like where the neck and body meet.

Yes, the only original finish issues with my 13 ES 335 and 06 LP DC are tiny imperfections right where the neck joins the upperside of the body, as you describe. Apparently pretty common with the black ES 335 Basses. Doesn't worry me, but you would expect better, given they were both pretty pricey basses new. My 08 Gibson TBird is flawless. As are my 74 Ripper, 79 RDs, 13 G3 70s Tribute and my Victory Basses.
 
I'll compare build and finish quality of a Gibby Bird with a Fender as soon as Fender comes out with a neck through bass made largely of mahogany with an open grain finish. Until then it's apples and oranges. Completely different construction techniques, materials and finish methods. Might as well claim that Fender finishes aren't nearly as smooth and uniform as Dan Armstrong Lucite basses, makes as much sense.

That is a really good point.
 
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That looks fantastic! I'm not partial to black basses, but those knobs are great. Once it's all chromed out, it's going to be stunning.
 

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