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TI Jazz rounds

mdogs

mdogs

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So, I really like these strings, but the .089 E string isn’t working too well for me in my main band as we tune a 1/2 step down. I know I should theoretically be able to overcome this through the setup, but I am really struggling with getting it to where it works. Normally, I would move the strings I have to another bass to see if that makes a difference, but the bass they are on has a reverse Fender headstock and the strings were cut for that bass. So what I am wondering is, has anyone tried using the extra long set on a 34” scale bass. I’m thinking the .100 E string in that set would work very well, but I am worried about wrapping the fat part of the string on the post. I don’t have a problem spending the money on the strings, but I don’t want to waste it either if the longer string won’t work. Thoughts?
 
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mdogs said:
the bass they are on has a reverse Fender headstock and the strings were cut for that bass. So what I am wondering is, has anyone tried using the extra long set on a 34” scale bass. I’m thinking the .100 E string in that set would work very well, but I am worried about wrapping the fat part of the string on the post.
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Extra winding length on the E string shouldn't be a problem on a reverse Fender headstock as the E tuner post is the farthest up from the nut.
 
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mdogs said:
I guess I was not that clear, the TI’s are already on the reverse headstock, I would be putting the new ones on a normal headstock.
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I see... Sorry I misread your question.

The only thing about TI strings is there is a full 2.75" difference in winding length (ball end to silk) between "long scale" (37") and "super long scale" (39.75"). That's a lot of the full winding wrapping around the tuner post.

Since I don't have personal experience with these strings, I won't be able to comment on whether the extra length will cause any issues.
 
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michael_t said:
I see... Sorry I misread your question.

The only thing about TI strings is there is a full 2.75" difference in winding length (ball end to silk) between "long scale" (37") and "super long scale" (39.75"). That's a lot of the full winding wrapping around the tuner post.

Since I don't have personal experience with these strings, I won't be able to comment on whether the extra length will cause any issues.
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Ya, that is a lot of full winding on the post.
 
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mdogs said:
...has anyone tried using the extra long set on a 34” scale bass
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Yes.
Immediately after receiving my Ric (33.25" scale length) I installed TIJR 36" scale and they lived on there happily for two years. I did that because at that time I thought I needed the heavier gauges. They were still good, nothing wrong, when I removed them to test another brand of string of similar type (pure nickel outer, very flexible).

This isn't necessary, I'm just telling you what I did:
That was my first set of round core strings and I was careful due to what I had read about needing to crimp the end or whatever, so I went to an extreme: (I cut at least one but can't remember if I cut more than one.) I folded, with pliers, about 1/2" the end all the way over, then instead of sticking that down into the hole in the tuner (because it wouldn't fit I think), I just laid it across the slot, so that it stuck out about 3/8", then the first turn around the post went *over* that (to hold it down), the rest of the turns going under it as usual. Worked perfectly.

EDIT: Of course I cut so as to have just one layer of windings, so I must have cut all of them.
 
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mdogs said:
So, I really like these strings, but the .089 E string isn’t working too well for me in my main band as we tune a 1/2 step down. I know I should theoretically be able to overcome this through the setup, but I am really struggling with getting it to where it works. .....Thoughts?
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.089 is darn small for an E sting, especially when it's round wounds. What you have is a string that, when down tuned, has too little tension. I do a lot of setups, and there is no step in a setup where you have the opportunity to fix that issue. You need a bigger E string.
 
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micguy said:
.089 is darn small for an E sting, especially when it's round wounds. What you have is a string that, when down tuned, has too little tension. I do a lot of setups, and there is no step in a setup where you have the opportunity to fix that issue. You need a bigger E string.
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Well, since that is the only size E strings come in in this scale, that is a problem.
 
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Ok, it isn't "multiple turns" at full thickness, but it does transition to full thickness before leaving the tuner. This is a SS Lo-Riders 95 E.

[The string behind it is a roto. This is a Squier CV '51.]
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BUT,
what I did on the Ric doesn't apply as well as I thought to this case because the Ric's E tuner is a lot farther from the nut. I apologize for that.
On the 33.25" scale Ric, the 36" scale TIJR E string just barely touched the metal of the post. It did not go around.
 
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@mdogs, if it will make any difference to you I'll mount my used 36" E onto a standard 34" Fender E post and tune it up.
Even if it accepts this it would not guarantee that its life wouldn't be affected.

Info: The Dogal Hellborg rounds E is a .102. That's what's on my Ric now. (Pure nickel outer, no intermediate winding, stranded core. More flexible than TIJRs, but the E and A, especially the E, are rough.)
 
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I have used the JR364 (extra long 36") on a regular Jazz bass with no problem at all. Assuming your tuning posts are standard Fender-type ones, not skinny like Hofner ones, there is no problem at all winding the extra length around them. The feel/stiffness is like that of a regular light gauge roundwound, not super-floppy, but still with the suppleness and gorgeously mellow musical tones of the TIJRs.
 
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