Stone Temple Pilots should be on that list now that they are eligible.
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Time for our annual RRHOF Bashing
- Thread starter RichardW
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(...time for my annual...)
It ain't the Hall Of Fame until Todd Rundgren is in.
(Even then, it ain't.)
It ain't the Hall Of Fame until Todd Rundgren is in.
(Even then, it ain't.)
It's not the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Is R&R really The OJ's, The Jackson 5, Tupac Shakur? It's just another staged popularity contest, otherwise bands like Rory Gallagher, The Scorpions and Jethro Tull would be in it.
So the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is just for white groups?
Killer icon!!
It's NOT the Rock n Roll HoF.
It's 'The Post-WWII Popular Music Museum", with some Really cool presentations dedicated to the fathers, and the grand fathers of Rory Gallagher, and The Scorpians, and Utopia!
It's a Great day out!
Don't miss it...or dismiss it.
I'd go again tomorrow!
Also adding to the list of deserving bands
EAD KENNEDYS !
EAD KENNEDYS !I think that @Nick Danger meant that The OJs, The Jackson 5 and Tupac don't belong for being soul and rap, not because they're black. This isn't a race slur, it's a statement about the RNRHoF losing their focus. Would you put The Jackson 5 in the Country Music Hall of Fame? Of course not.
Killer icon!!
It's NOT the Rock n Roll HoF.
It's 'The Post-WWII Popular Music Museum", with some Really cool presentations dedicated to the fathers, and the grand fathers of Rory Gallagher, and The Scorpians, and Utopia!
It's a Great day out!
Don't miss it...or dismiss it.
I'd go again tomorrow!
I have been to the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame twice and really enjoyed it. The exhibits change often too, which was good. I just did not pay any attention to many displays for acts that do not interest me and spent my time checking out the acts I do like. There were so many things to see, movies and concerts to watch, and songs to hear that a whole day was not enough to see everything. There are also displays with acts that are not inducted, which I was not expecting.
Yes, it is a museum and money making business but there are lots of cool things there.
That's your definition of rock & roll. Rock music was in part about rebellion, Tupac represents that. The O'Jays and Jackson Five are just as close to original R&R as Jethro Tull is. R&R was born from Black music.
Just watched part of the RRHOF induction show on HBO last night, and I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. A few observations:
-- The Zombies killed it; not too shabby for a bunch of old guys. Colin Blunstone's voice has held up unbelievably well, maybe better than anyone else from the British Invasion era. And inducting them....I didn't think it was possible for me to crush even harder on Susannah Hoffs, but I was wrong.
-- Bryan Ferry rattling off the list of Roxy Music bass players was impressive--he can't seem to keep them. Would have liked a little more shout out to the late John Wetton in that list, but he had quite a few to get through. The band sounded great, nice to see Eddie Jobson getting some screen time.
-- I thought having Janet Jackson's induction speaker emphasizing how important it was that with Jackson, there was finally a black woman singer role model for her, was an awkward juxtaposition against the immediately following "In Memorium" segment that heavily featured Aretha Franklin. I thought Jackson gave a gracious acceptance speech, but if she performed, I must have missed it.
-- Rick Allen's emotional reaction to a standing ovation from the audience honoring him was very touching. I thought Joe Elliott's acceptance speech was nicely done, and the band sounded like rock and roll to me, although the bass was mixed too low.
-- The Zombies killed it; not too shabby for a bunch of old guys. Colin Blunstone's voice has held up unbelievably well, maybe better than anyone else from the British Invasion era. And inducting them....I didn't think it was possible for me to crush even harder on Susannah Hoffs, but I was wrong.
-- Bryan Ferry rattling off the list of Roxy Music bass players was impressive--he can't seem to keep them. Would have liked a little more shout out to the late John Wetton in that list, but he had quite a few to get through. The band sounded great, nice to see Eddie Jobson getting some screen time.
-- I thought having Janet Jackson's induction speaker emphasizing how important it was that with Jackson, there was finally a black woman singer role model for her, was an awkward juxtaposition against the immediately following "In Memorium" segment that heavily featured Aretha Franklin. I thought Jackson gave a gracious acceptance speech, but if she performed, I must have missed it.
-- Rick Allen's emotional reaction to a standing ovation from the audience honoring him was very touching. I thought Joe Elliott's acceptance speech was nicely done, and the band sounded like rock and roll to me, although the bass was mixed too low.
Rock and Roll as we know it today is a pairing of 50s R&B and Country, so it's coffee-coloured. That 50s R&B also gave birth to R&B and soul of the James Brown variety pretty directly, and with an admixture of gospel we got the Aretha Franklin version (and eventually modern R&B). And a good chunk of blues and jazz have been added in at various points, but also more dollops of country and even classical, Indian, middle-eastern, north African, Carribean, folk - western and eastern European, etc.). So in short, it's a joyous mixture of influences and cultures, and it would be good to celebrate that.
Look at Rush: there are plenty of folk and classical influences as well as R&B and a dash of blues. Jethro Tull (not sure if that's in the RRHOF): classical, medieval, folk, blues, R&R. Genesis: rock, classical, folk and a lot of Motown. And that's just three 'progressive rock' bands showing a diversity of influences.
They should have named it the Popular Music Hall of Fame. There are way too many people in there that have nothing to do with Rock and Roll.
Well, Okayyy... Consider this my official 2019 RRHOF bashing, then - 
Now, it's time to listen to some Buddy Holly...
Now, it's time to listen to some Buddy Holly...
+1, those were almost my exact sentiments about the evening.
...although Janelle Monae's (Jackson's inducter) comments didn't bother me juxtaposed against Aretha Franklin because it seemed clear to me that Janelle was talking about stuff that made a personal impact, and she's way too young to have been alive when Aretha was getting a lot of airplay!
I think we know that.
Classical, Jazz, Country, Reggae, etc had rebellious composers & performers, too.
Charles Ives, John Cage in the RRHOF? I doubt it.
Earliest Tull (as a 4-tet) to me sounded like Blues-Rock.
I'm glad I wasn't taking a sip of coffee when I read this.I'd rather visit IHOP.
