So what I’m getting from the responses here is that the FE is for users who need a DI to work with FOH and a desire to simplify a setup where no EQ is needed by the user of a piezo pickup. Is that right?
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Double Bass Tl :dr; summary on the Red Eye please?
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Not in my case. For me, the Red Eye does something to the signal that makes the amplified sound feel more like playing acoustically, even when it’s much louder than playing acoustically. It’s subtle, but it’s there. I have no idea how it does this, or what is actually happening inside that little box. But it’s enough to justify putting it on a little pedalboard with the Noble and schlepping it to performances.
Not my case either. I bought the Bright Eye, which does not have a DI.
Edit: and I think the signal still needs (or benefits from anyway) some EQ and HPF.
I’ve been out of the loop so thanks. What does the Noble do for you in comparison?
I have one too. I agree that it's subtle but noticable. I hear a musical "tightening" of the sound. I've compared it to when a studio engineer that knows what they're doing puts a high end compressor on the bass and suddenly the bass sounds more forward and direct, less flabby. Not "compressed" sounding, still sounds like your pickup, your bass, but better. But unlike a compressor it also smooths out the plasticy pluck and super deep flab that you get can from piezos, making it sound more acoustic at higher volumes. Again, it's subtle but there.
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Not in my case either, I’ve got the Grace or my GR AT Cube Acoustic to handle that. I’m literally taking the RedEyeTwin out all the time. I started doing that when I was using a Realist Life Line on my Kolstine Busetto Travel Bass (man that’s a lot of words!! ) Now it’s the Preamp for two Ehrlund EAP’s on both the Kolstine BTB, my Mirecourt and my Lakland 55-94’s. I still need the EQ on my main boxes while the RedEye is the a preamp. Just my take.
I use mine(RedEye) for plugging into an amp whether there's FOH or not. I also have an HPF if I need it, but that's it. If I need any EQ I do it with the amp. Any pickup I use benefits: smoother, more even response is the only way I can describe it. I don't use the boost feature. I don't want to be concerned about anything electronic once I start playing if at all possible.
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TLDR: both boxes make my amplified signal sound and feel better.
Man, that a tough question to answer. Best I can say is that it makes the sound more three dimensional. It’s kinda dancing about architecture, though, to try to describe it.
TLDR: both boxes make my amplified signal sound and feel better.
While I appreciate it, don’t bother. I’ma few years away from gigging regularly at the soonest. I just wanted to understand what this was all about.
You might’ve missed it. I got a new addition to the family and all my music hours have been relegated to the shed at night owl hours. Following Wes Montgomery’s model for a while
congrats. Babies take up lots o time. And they should. Mine are rounding the bend on the other axis (16+22) so I have a lot more time now. Have fun burning the midnight oil.
Something cool to contemplate late at night:
play (in thumb position) the first 4 notes of a 1/2 whole diminished scale on the D string (T, Shift ,T,1,2)(D,Eb,F,Gb)then move over to the G string and do the same (T, Shift T,1,2)(Ab,A,B,C). Your T is now starting a b5th from where you started (say D to Ab)...after that is comfy just move your thumb across to land it back and forth from the D to the Ab.Then do that to the Ab on the A string and play the whole sequence A st.(T,shift T,1,2) D st (T,shift T1,2) G st (T,shift,T,1,2).
That is a great way to get diminished scales to be useful and easy on the bass. When it is really easy to do and you really have the whole thing up and back with ease and you have shifted the whole sequence down in semitones (only 3 covers all the dim scales: starting on D,Db,C) once that is all totally solid, begin resolving the 2nd finger notes up a half step (to get a V to I resolution) for example: D(shift)Eb,F,Gb resolve to G. Then resolve to the other notes of the I chord, like the first T DOWN a 1/2 step to #11 (say descending to D and resolving it down to C#....D7b9#9 to GMaj#11)
It's more complicated to describe then to play or hear.
Something cool to contemplate late at night:
play (in thumb position) the first 4 notes of a 1/2 whole diminished scale on the D string (T, Shift ,T,1,2)(D,Eb,F,Gb)then move over to the G string and do the same (T, Shift T,1,2)(Ab,A,B,C). Your T is now starting a b5th from where you started (say D to Ab)...after that is comfy just move your thumb across to land it back and forth from the D to the Ab.Then do that to the Ab on the A string and play the whole sequence A st.(T,shift T,1,2) D st (T,shift T1,2) G st (T,shift,T,1,2).
That is a great way to get diminished scales to be useful and easy on the bass. When it is really easy to do and you really have the whole thing up and back with ease and you have shifted the whole sequence down in semitones (only 3 covers all the dim scales: starting on D,Db,C) once that is all totally solid, begin resolving the 2nd finger notes up a half step (to get a V to I resolution) for example: D(shift)Eb,F,Gb resolve to G. Then resolve to the other notes of the I chord, like the first T DOWN a 1/2 step to #11 (say descending to D and resolving it down to C#....D7b9#9 to GMaj#11)
It's more complicated to describe then to play or hear.
FWIW I’ve experimented putting the Red Eye in different positions on my pedalboard. I thought it should go first for the impedance “thing”, but, after shifting it around I’ve noticed no difference. It’s now after a Boss tuner and fdeck. I also like to use wireless “dongles”, and they work fine with piezo pickups. So I’m not sure how big a deal the whole impedance thing is(?)….
All that said, it does seem to add a little “something”. I like the boost and Treble controls too. It’s a great DI in the least.
All that said, it does seem to add a little “something”. I like the boost and Treble controls too. It’s a great DI in the least.
Thanks. It’s a Revsound RS210, one of the best gear purchasing decisions I’ve made. Can handle any situation I’m likely to find myself in. Weighs 30 lbs. I’m about to order one of his 2x8 cabs for smaller venues. Digital comes and goes — analog is an investment.
Ahhh... i get it. It's a tone shaper. Makes the darks darker, the brights brighter. Like squirting some fresh lime on your taco.
Yeah I'll prob spring for it at some point. I like the idea that it can be phantom powered so I'll just plug it directly into my Clarus2 and have it power everything.
Yeah I'll prob spring for it at some point. I like the idea that it can be phantom powered so I'll just plug it directly into my Clarus2 and have it power everything.
That’s as accurate a description of what it does. You really have to experience it as a player to get what it does.
It’s the most elusive piece of gear I have. There are days I feel like it’s the “secret sauce” for amped piezo, especially for the quiet Vic’s dual element that benefits from the boost (less so for the hotter Yamahiko dual)… Other days I can’t stand it and it feels like it’s fuzzing up my tone and squashing the dynamics of my attack. It’s on my rig now, but there’s definitely something to be said for having the sushi tube pre on the front end instead.
All I know from my experience is it’s the best preamp for the Ehrlund EAP including Ehrulund’s own preamp.
