• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

To all Hartke LH500 users, past & present!!!!

Frimo

Guest
Nov 7, 2012
20
3
Hi fellas...

Please share your experiences with me :-)
Im looking to upgrading my bass rig.. I currently play through a LH500 and a Warwick WCA 4ohm 410 cab, but I really want something bigger (I know, who does'ent:-) And im thinking about
2 Ashdown ABMt 410 8ohm cabs..
The thing is, I dont really know it the amp has enough juice to pull these two cabs at an efficient volume, since each cab will only get 250watt from the amp, since they are rated as 600 watts cabs each...

What are you experiences with the LH500 and 2 410s? or perhaps an 810??

We play rock and roll, blues and some other loud stuff, and the bass fills alot in our sound, so its important that I can be very well heard....

really hope to get alot of great feedback from you all :-)

Best regards,
A hard rocker in Denmark ;-)
 
Well....
If you're currently running a 410@ 4ohms, then you are using all the hartke's power.

So in essence, by running TWO 410s at 4 ohms, you will be running at half the power per cab, BUT you'll have twice the speaker area.

Someone more intellegent than me may pipe in and give you a real spl number.....but I'm going to estimate you'll be about 40-50% "louder" to your ears. Especially with the 410 stacked as the speakers will be closer to your ears.


Personally, I'm wondering why 500watts of 410 isn't loud enough! Tell your band to turn down!
I run about 130watts into my 410 and never turn up past 11oclock!
 
I run a lh500 into an swr 6x10 and its LOUD. At band practice I never have to turn up past 2.5 on the master volume. I have also tried it through an ampeg 8x10 it sounded great but the 8x10 is too big. Kikstand is right though. Adding another speaker is the best way to get more volume out of your amp.
 
Lets break it down, the two 410 cabs will probably make good use of about 300 watts each before any extra power just starts heating voice coils or overextends them mechanically.

The 410 you have right now is most likely the same so 200 of those 500 watts is being wasted as heat not sound.
Eight 10" speakers will be louder than four 10" speakers with the same input power and with two cabs they can make good use of ALL 500 watts to produce useable sound.

The amp has the ability to drive the two cabs very well.
 
I've run an 810 with a 25w amp, and while it wasn't the loudest amp on earth, it powered it just fine and was a decent bit louder than you'd think. Underpowering cabs is a myth.
 
Your Hartke is 500 watts@ 4ohms,this means you can use two 8 ohm cabs and that would be a 4ohm load or one 4 ohm cab to get the full
power out of your amp.
More speakers as a rule produce more sound,move more air and sound
a lot louder than a single speaker .
IMO two 8 ohm multi speaker cabs will take care of most,like 2-12's
4 -10's. that way for smaller gigs one cab @ 8 ohms would give you
enough and if you need more add your other 8 ohm cab to get the most
out of your amp.
As far as the Hartke goes ,I like the LH500 ,it,s a great sounding amp
simple controls ,enough power for most things and best of all they
don't cost a arm and leg.
 
Thx for all your replies:-)
We do play loud, hard and fast, both live and in at practice:-)
So volume, or percieved loudnes/volume is important:-)
Well, I will Pick up these two Ashdown ABM 410 cabs come december, and hope they will serve my needs for some years to come :)
 
I think you'll be pleased. I used to run an LH500 into 2 TL606 cabs loaded with Eminence Kappalite 3015s in a deafening classic rock cover band, and the LH500 / 215 @ 4 ohms setup was plenty loud enough. By deafening, I mean that even with ear plugs my ears would ring for hours after shows. I think you'll be fine with 810s at 4 ohms with the LH500.

Liam
 

Latest posts