That's ridiculous. Rinat Ibragimov is a fine musician and bass player. I find his French Bow technique quite unusual and interesting, but the guy has a great tone and a lot of energy...He's also the principal of one of the finest orchestra's in the world, and Tom Martin himself saught him out to replace him.
With regards to him being principal of the LSO, that does not automatically make him the most qualified for the job. There's many bass players in some of the finest orchestras in the world that would get schooled by some of the kids entering their first year in college nowadays, so that argument has no weight.
I don't think you can make such an outlandish statement based on one video that the guy was probably just sight reading!
HAHAHAHAHAHA The principal of the LSO sight reading beethoven 9? Thats pretty low, even for you Calvin. Show some respect for the man. I guess what you meant to say is that he didn't practice or care about such trivial aspects of bass playing such as rhythm and intonation for a little video going on youtube. If that's true he doesn't show much pride for his job, as every other LSO masterclass was SIGNIFICANTLY higher in quality.
I think we should also bare in mind that this was a performance for Youtube, which is a nice outlet, but in the end its not the same environment as an audition or playing infront of a packed concert hall. He probably got it done and over with in one take.
I got news for you buddy, although you might -think- that you can turn your bass playing on and off, there is only one way that you play. I've known bassists who are outstanding audition takers, but for whatever reason they don't take school orchestra seriously at all. Not surprisingly they don't automatically become better orchestral bass players once they join orchestras. People who are great audition takers, but don't take orchestra seriously are in for a huge reality check when they realize orchestra is what they will be doing for the rest of their life. The way you practice scales in the morning (pride), the level you prepare your first rehearsal in a school orchestra that you are not getting paid for (pride), the level in which you audition (pride), and ultimately the level at which you do your job (PRIDE!) are very closely related and show a whole lot about one's character.
Long story short, the guy who comes to a first rehearsal of Beethoven 9 completely prepared, crosses all t's and dot's all i's for a crappy gig with crappy pay and crappy musicians (a situation he has no motivation for other than the love of the music and the instrument), will probably end up becoming a very successful musician, and Rinat unfortunately does not exemplify this quality. Don't let him be your role model.
Very European style, with much concern for dynamics, quality of vibrato, and artistic nuance. Not at all the way guys audition here, but perfectly valid, especially in context...
Sorry but I got to call BS on this one. This is not "European style" Listen to the other LSO string masterclasses. They are on another level.
. 3:46 He states to "keep pulse". Go ahead and tap along while he plays, he comes in at random times that do not correlate at all with eighth note pulse he created. Listen to that last 16th scale that starts on Db. What was that? He took a completely different tempo there, it was about 50% faster than the pulse he created. Ironically, he was demonstrating pulse...lol This is not "european style" This is simply a man that, when not playing solo with the crutch of an accompanist in a fancy high tech recording studio, does not have internal rhythm. Something any bass player trying to get a job in todays orchestral world MUST have.
That's right keeps it, as many of you know getting the job is just part of it. Your job is always in danger if you begin to slack one bit
You must be talking about before tenure. Tenured classical musicians are some of the biggest slackers I can think of (not all, but some). As I said earlier, I won't mention names but there are bassists in the world's most amazing orchestras that simply are no where near the cream of the crop. It's way more important how you interact with people after the audition. When you win an audition, the orchestra knows you can play, people skills become more important after that. It is still important to be a valued member of the section (musically) right after you get the job, but once you get tenure you can throw all that out the window, it just becomes mainly a matter of pride.
FWIW, that Mozart lick is a nightmare for anyone.
True it is a difficult excerpt, but please. In his video about 6:20 into it, he doesn't even play the right notes. He changes the tonality of the whole lick. If you're gonna be principal of the LSO, at least learn the notes. Hardly the type of performance I would want to see if I were to pay to see LSO perform the piece.
Hehe, I love Colin Corners tone. It's incredibly bright and growly, surprising for Belcanto's! It must be his Jackstadt bass.
I suggest you save money, take out a loan, or beg your parents and get a Jakstadt then. Cause he's won I believe 4 jobs and advanced in several others. Cause after all, buying Jakstadts = winning auditions for the Minnesota Orchestra. You are ridiculous Calvin.
I totally agree with Bass Bill and I think Rinat should be held accountable for not doing his job (as I'm sure he got paid for this). If I go to burger king and they mess up my order, I'll say something cause someone wasn't doing their job. Neither was Rinat.
