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Touring for "exposure"

#101
Joebone said:
Time for a quotation from The Temptations, courtesy of Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong, intended solely to illuminate and contextualize the immediate matter at hand:

Heard some talk Papa doing some storefront preachin'
Talking about saving souls and all the time leechin'
Dealing in dirt, and stealing in the name of the Lord
Momma just hung her head and said
Papa was a rolling stone (my son)
Wherever he laid his hat was his home
And when he died, all he left us was alone
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... all he left us was a loan....
 
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#102
ezstep said:
One of my high school kids and his band were invited to tour "nation-wide" a while back. They were given $30K in advance. After the summer-long tour, at which they sold virtually no tee shirts or cd's, they were hit with a $30k bill plus interest that had accrued during the touring months.

Tough lesson for him.
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That's why you need a manager to look at contracts...
 
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#106
DWBass said:
This!!

I wouldn't go near it. Exposure? To whom? What's the demographic?
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Worked with a guy whose adolescent daughter received an unsolicited invite to a "beauty / talent pageant". Sidenote: dad was a real doof and probably got roped into it...I don't remember. The language was a little different but it mentioned "sponsors" meaning moms & dads, aunts & uncles, not outside sources. Funding was 100% participant provided and this scheme is no different. Nobody else is pulling out their wallets to finance this cluster****.

Riis
 
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#110
There are different levels of scams, but the end is mostly the same: charge opening bands to pay for the headliners, pocket the ticket sales. That's all venues, promoters, and labels care about. We are pros ti tutes in their minds to turn out and make money for them.
If you want to tour as an original band in the US it's going to cost you thousands. There is no money in being in a band anymore. You have to decide if you want to pay for the experience of playing in front of people and seeing places you haven't been.
 
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#113
socialleper said:
If you pay money to sign on to a tour that is playing moose lodges that's on you. You should only pay if you are playing larger venues than you'd be able to book on your own.
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In the tour that is the topic of this thread, Moose Lodges would be a good stop. They literally have some bands singing on a street corner. Not going sell much merch there.
 
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#115
Shepsdad said:
No, those guys were genuine bonafide evil kooks. The guys running what OP describes are just plain ol’ garden variety conmen/slimy sales guys.
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Anyone who steals in the name of the Lord or uses someone's religious beliefs to take advantage of them in whatever manner is evil, period. No different from Jim Jones, David Koresh, L Ron Hubbard, David Miscavage....
 
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