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Traben Club, Level 2.

If I had to guess I would say no difference. Probably just coming out of different factories. My Core has no made in label at all. Just an E08 serial number which should mean it was made in 2008 and they were still made in Korea at that time.

I would also think all the new Chaos Cores being made now are coming out of Vietnamese factories.
 
According to the Traben site, the Chaos Core is a discontinued model. Never seen one born in Vietnam.

I had a Vietnam chaos core, so they unfortunately do exist, and yes it had problems. Took it back to GC within a week after ordering it used online. The neck was twisted and the fretwork was horrid. Nowhere near the same level as the MIK models I've had.

It's a real shame what happened to the trabens, they weren't real popular, but every one of the early ones I've had was an excellent, high quality bass.
 
Dramatic shot of my Chaos Core!

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After owning over 75 Basses and playing since 1964 (5 string since mid 80's),
there are two things I really like about my Array.
The rigidity of this base is unmatched so far, meaning when I strike the open "B" string I feel very little vibration through the bass which brings out a nice clear sound with sustaining overtones.
The other thing is the close proximity of the MM style *bridge* humbucker to the bridge. This brings a lot of percussive definition to the sound, I only roll in a small amount of the neck P-U for bottom.
I, like so many others don't really care for the look of the bridge but it could very well be what makes this instrument sound this way?
 
Personally, I love the look of the bridge on my Phoenix. It was the main thing that first drew me to wanting to buy it. That and the flames inlay on the fretboard.
After playing it, I was further convinced.
 
Personally, I love the look of the bridge on my Phoenix. It was the main thing that first drew me to wanting to buy it. That and the flames inlay on the fretboard.
After playing it, I was further convinced.

Exactly what happened to me. When I first started playing, I was browsing musicians friend website and came across the traben array limited that really caught my eye.

After some research I tracked down the closest dealer which happened to be 3 hours away. They had a few arrays a neo and a Phoenix. As soon as I saw the phoenix in person I knew it was for me. Once I picked it up and played it there was no going back.

I will never sell my phoenix, I'm still experimenting with pickups/pre's to find my sound, but it plays sooo well I have no desire for anything else. Not to mention it has no resale value anyways.
 
Does your Phoenix have the stock, Traben pickups? I remember that for a few hundred dollars more there was
the option for upgraded p'ups (possibly EMG's?). I've always been curious to know if, in the end, it was worth the upgrade or not.
Mine has the stock p'ups.

Exactly what happened to me. When I first started playing, I was browsing musicians friend website and came across the traben array limited that really caught my eye.

After some research I tracked down the closest dealer which happened to be 3 hours away. They had a few arrays a neo and a Phoenix. As soon as I saw the phoenix in person I knew it was for me. Once I picked it up and played it there was no going back.

I will never sell my phoenix, I'm still experimenting with pickups/pre's to find my sound, but it plays sooo well I have no desire for anything else. Not to mention it has no resale value anyways.
 
Does your Phoenix have the stock, Traben pickups? I remember that for a few hundred dollars more there was
the option for upgraded p'ups (possibly EMG's?). I've always been curious to know if, in the end, it was worth the upgrade or not.
Mine has the stock p'ups.

Yes, mine HAD the stock traben electronics. They did make a Phoenix Custom that came with I believe Seymour Duncan pups. That's the model John Cooper of Skillet plays.
Very little info on the model anywhere, I've looked hi and low for one for years now.

Mine now sports an SD quarterpounder J and SD mm pickup with a bartolini pre.
 
Yes, mine HAD the stock traben electronics. They did make a Phoenix Custom that came with I believe Seymour Duncan pups. That's the model John Cooper of Skillet plays.
Very little info on the model anywhere, I've looked hi and low for one for years now.

Mine now sports an SD quarterpounder J and SD mm pickup with a bartolini pre.

Ah, yes, Seymour Duncans! Thanks for that info!

Do you see a big difference with pickups and pre that you installed?

I get a very strong, punchy sound from my Traben, but I haven't yet dialed in a sound I like. I don't quite know if it's the pickups and pre, or if it has to do with my not using it as my daily player, so that I haven't fiddled with it enough.
 
Ah, yes, Seymour Duncans! Thanks for that info!

Do you see a big difference with pickups and pre that you installed?

I get a very strong, punchy sound from my Traben, but I haven't yet dialed in a sound I like. I don't quite know if it's the pickups and pre, or if it has to do with my not using it as my daily player, so that I haven't fiddled with it enough.

Same boat I was in, the sound was just good, not as good as I would like. In my honest opinion, the stock pre was just fine, I went with a bartolini because I wanted an active/passive switch and I just really wanted to try a Bart. :)

The stock mm pickup also was good enough to leave, I just got a good deal on the sd so I went for it.

The real improvement came in the j pickup. I was just never quite happy with the tone I got from it no matter where I had the knobs. The Duncan quarter pounder is a drastic change imo, in a positive manner. It now has that growl with a touch of trebly goodness I've been looking for.

Overall the sounds I get out of my phoenix now are absolutely monstrous, definitely a wise choice if you find yourself not 100% satisfied.
 
Same boat I was in, the sound was just good, not as good as I would like. In my honest opinion, the stock pre was just fine, I went with a bartolini because I wanted an active/passive switch and I just really wanted to try a Bart. :)

The stock mm pickup also was good enough to leave, I just got a good deal on the sd so I went for it.

The real improvement came in the j pickup. I was just never quite happy with the tone I got from it no matter where I had the knobs. The Duncan quarter pounder is a drastic change imo, in a positive manner. It now has that growl with a touch of trebly goodness I've been looking for.

Overall the sounds I get out of my phoenix now are absolutely monstrous, definitely a wise choice if you find yourself not 100% satisfied.

Thanks for your time and info! I really appreciate it. It's good to find another fan of the Phoenix.
 
IMO, and I've tried many pre/pup combinations, but for what it's worth, NOTHING beats the Rockfield/Aguilar Combo. I've been buying Rockfields whenever I can. (I put a J set in a Fender Jazz one time and it was so sweet)
My Chaos Core 5 sounds phenomenal with this combo. I'm actually looking to buy another Chaos in Whiskey Burl instead of Black Vapor. The tone and playability just out-perform anything up to 3 times the price! Plus the 5-way coil switching gives you so many tonal options!
 
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Hey all. I have a question. I've done considerable searching without finding answers, so I appeal to the Traben Club for some possible enlightenment.....

Does anyone know if there are any Traben 5-string models that are 35" Scale and have 19mm / 0.75" string spacing at the bridge?

I would greatly appreciate any assistance.

Thanks all,
Gus