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Tricked Out Squier Club Part 2

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I've ordered from BPR, never anything backordered, and my only issue was that it took them a couple days to mail the order out. I have e-mailed them maybe 5 times about different things and never gotten a response. Overall, my stance is neutral; they've got decent prices and a good selection, but mediocre customer service.

On an unrelated note, I'm going in a few hours to pick up a black Squier Bronco for $80, NIB. I've only got a moped, so I'm debating strapping the thing to the back (done it before with packages) in the box, or just taking a gig bag.

Does the Bronco bass fit in an acoustic guitar gig bag? Can anyone give me an overall bottom strap button to headstock end length?
 
Matt’s Mutant Fretless Precision Bass

I’ve had this idea for a bass for a while and I finally brought that idea to life. Here’s a bit of the story behind this bass that took me about 7 months to build and modify. I haven’t done the numbers, but I want to say that I spent approximately $250-$300 over the course of 6 months, some stuff needed I already had, and that cost includes parts, paint, and some tools (router, polisher, etc…) that I needed.
The beginning of March 2012, about a week before my 30th birthday, my girlfriend at the time and I were in the process of moving into a place together and she asks “what do you want for your birthday ya old goof?”. So I tell her that “I would like a ‘beater bass’ something inexpensive, used, but not seriously damaged, preferably a Squier P-bass, probably get one on craigslist real cheap”. I wanted to get weird and seriously modify it, repaint it, make it fretless, make a strange addition, add a second set of pickups, etc… I bought most of the parts sorta piece-meal on ebay, some parts I started buying before I got the bass, the whole plan was to be patient, not spend a lot of money, take my time and do it right. So I found a used blue squire p-bass in great condition for $80 on craigslist and she bought it for me. We move into a nice place and I get my work area set up and start working shortly after getting settled in.

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I pretty much consider myself a “5 string player”, my main basses are two late 90’s Ibanez SR1205 neck-through 5 strings; I love the neck-through feel and sustain, I like the range of 24 frets and 5 strings for chords and positions, getting low as well as being able to shred and solo if I want to, I like the width of it, and they sound great. BUT when it comes to 4 string basses, the precision bass is kinda what defines it for me. I got my first job when I was 14 so that I could save up all summer to buy a MIM Fender Precision that I still own. Squiers/p-basses are very modifiable, many available options, many swappable parts.
I made my acoustic bass fretless with a polyurethane coat a few years ago that I was very happy with, and I wanted to explore that again with an electric bass but this time I’d use a much more heavy duty epoxy.

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I kinda wanted this new bass to be almost like a different instrument, a slightly different beast than I’m used to but also have some familiar, kinda nostalgic, characteristics.


Step 1: Route (APRIL 2012)

I wanted to add a second set of p-bass pickups to this beast-to-be; 1 volume knob, 1 blend knob, 1 tone knob. I never used a router before, figured I’m capable, and bought a decent router from Harbor Freight Tools for $50 (I friggin love that place I go there too often, I recommend that every dude get into that place). The key to using a router is having good templates, which can be difficult to make, especially for a p bass set, and the stewmac p bass pickup template had seemingly bad reviews so I stayed away from that. I made a template out of a scrap piece of wood and basically traced the pickguard pickup hole and cut it out with a coping saw. I started by cutting the bulk with a forstner bit, my coworker let me borrow his ¼” stew mac ball-bearing router bit (which I eventually bought one for myself later), and it came out pretty nice.

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Step 2: Stripping

I had some chemical paint stripper which I tried but it couldn’t remove everything. So I used a heat gun and scraper. A few more burn marks than I thought I’d get, but overall smooth clean job. Do not even think about doing the heatgun/scraper method without using protective goggles and a respirator mask in a well-ventilated area, or you will probably poison yourself as the fumes are harsh.

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While doing my research on how to paint my bass and refinish the neck. Deft lacquer products seemed like the way to go and easy to find at Lowe’s. I’ve been building effects pedals for a few years, having painted many enclosures, I know that one should try to stick to the same brand of stuff as much as you can, which sort of ensures that everything agrees with each other. Deft Lacquer sanding sealer, BIN primer, Forest Green Dupli-Color (might be a different green in the picture, but Forest Green is what was actually used), Deft Clear gloss Lacquer (about 4 cans of that total in the end).

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Step 3: Fretless Conversion
I started the fretless conversion while the sealer was drying. I converted my Ibanez acoustic bass to fretless a few years ago, and had plenty of veneer left over as well as the necessary saws to do this right. The only difference is that this time I decided to go with Systems 3 Mirror Coat because I wanted this to shine like glass, as well as having the option to use roundwound strings without worrying about scratching up the fingerboard if I want to.

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I sanded it smooth from 150 grit to 600 or 800 grit.

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Step 4: Epoxy
I bought Systems 3 Mirror Coat from Woodcraft. A lot of work to do, but it was worth the results. I made sure everything was level, but for some reason it ended up thicker on one end, so I put another layer to even it out. About 5 minutes after application I used my heat gun to get the bubbles out. I put it on too thick, but oh well, 80 grit with a palm sander brought it down well. Wet sanded with 320/400/600/800/1000/1500 I believe was the grit progression I used. I am very happy with the results.

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Step 5: PAINT!!! (MAY 2012)

2-3 coats of primer
3-4 coats of paint
2 cans of Lacquer clear gloss (basically 1 – 2 coats a day until the cans are empty, only sanded thick spots if necessary between coats). Let it cure for 5+ weeks.

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Step 6: Neck Refinish (JUNE 2012)
After the epoxy process and the headstock painted to match the body, I refinished the neck with Deft clear gloss lacquer. I taped off the epoxy and put a few coats of clear lacquer on the whole neck.

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I pretty much let that cure until the bass body was done, so I could buff them to shine about the same time.


Step 7: Buff and Polish the Neck

I got a compact palm polisher (Harbor Freight Tools) with a terry cloth bonnet and used Meguiars polish compound and went over the entire neck. I am extremely happy with how the neck came out!

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My stinky smelly dirty reflection.


Step 8: Buff and Polish the Body (JULY 2012)

I buffed and polished the body the same way I did the neck… THEN chip, a nice chunk of paint chipped off near the bridge. I was very mad and could not understand how or why this happened, but it looks like the paint didn’t stick well to the primer. It was also a pretty rainy month. Who knows?
NOTE: If I were to do this again this way, I’d probably skip primer completely, and do one or two more coats of sealer and paint and just allow the paint to stick to the sanding sealer.

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I lightly sanded and smoothed with steel wool so I could try to patch it up. PAIN IN THE A**!!!! I started the copper shielding tape process just in an attempt to still be productive, but then figured I might as well wait on that as I gotta tape off and clear coat again.
The patch attempt was not bad though. You can kinda see a darker circle of the patched area, but the bridge will cover part of it and my hand while playing will probably cover the rest, so it won’t be too noticeable. I also patched up a couple little dings too while doing this.

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Then 2 more cans of clear gloss lacquer, wait another month+ for it to cure. Patience is key my friends… so is cannabis.


Step 9: Buff and Polish the Body… again (SEPTEMBER 2012)

Aaaaaah much better.

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Step 10: Assemble the neck and copper shield the body

I used the same tuners that were already on the bass, not bad, but the screws are kinda crappy. I bought the additional tuner on ebay from a set cuz it was cheap. Copper shielding the body was an interesting task. Basically, I bought some and ran out with only a little left to cover. There wasn’t a music store around me that had any. I did a bit of research and found that stores that sell stained glass supplies should have copper shielding tape. I found a place next town over from me, and the store owner was extremely nice and helpful. She didn’t have anything wider than 3/8”, so she gave me a bunch for free off an open roll from her shop and said that if I needed any more to give her a call. She gave me more than enough. Outside of my hobbies I’ve fallen on some very unfortunate times all over, and that total stranger act of kind generosity really made my weekend.

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Step 11: Assemble bass, install pickguard, pickups, and electronics

I got the pickups cheap on ebay they were somewhere around $14/set, two sets. For some reason the flanges on one of the covers were a bit long and didn’t fit the hole I cut for them, so I got new All Parts covers for that set for $4 and they fit well.

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Step 12: Adjust Bridge and Nut for additional high D string

Similar to a 12 string guitar, or 8 string bass, I coupled the D string with an octave higher D string. I had this idea a while ago to do that to only one string. My goal was to get weird with this and that I did. I drilled an extra hole in the bridge for the string. I filed a slot as far over as I could on the bridge saddle, measured that, and filed the nut the same distance. I was going to put a string tree at the headstock, but I couldn’t do it successfully without blocking the truss rod, maybe I’ll find a better string tree and install it later.

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Step 13: MATT’S MUTANT P-BASS IS COMPLETE AND READY TO SHRED!!!

strung up with GHS Flatwound strings (28)65-80-100-126

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UPDATE 10/1/12: I put a string tree on this.

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Here is a video of me playing it. See how it sounds.
 
Very cool. What pickups did you end up putting in? How do the double D's (heh heh) intonate on your PP (heh heh)?

I have that exact same Squier P, picked it up for $50. It's been pulled apart, chiseled for a T-40 pickup at the bridge. I've been planning on defretting the neck since the fretwork is pure crap, but never got around to it. One of the tuning gear paddles is held on by hot glue (previous owner, not me).

That is a very classy and pro job you did there.
 
Very cool. What pickups did you end up putting in? How do the double D's (heh heh) intonate on your PP (heh heh)?

I have that exact same Squier P, picked it up for $50. It's been pulled apart, chiseled for a T-40 pickup at the bridge. I've been planning on defretting the neck since the fretwork is pure crap, but never got around to it. One of the tuning gear paddles is held on by hot glue (previous owner, not me).

That is a very classy and pro job you did there.

Thank you!!! the intonation of the double D's seems fine to me, just gotta make sure it's exactly in tune. sometimes I gotta angle my finger slightly one way or the other to hit the right note, but that's kinda how one plays a fretless anyway, perhaps it's just magnified a bit now cuz of that high string. I might put in a brass nut and set up a new bridge in the future, but so far I dig it alot. Chords are fun and it sounds in tune in the video for the most part.
 
Say hello to my little friend. Previous owner put the decals on, custom pickguard, and had the neck stained. I added the Fender neck plate and shaved down the neck and so now it's a perfect practice companion to my 2012 Am Jazz Std V (for those wondering, these basses have 18mm spacing, the same as Am Jazz Vs). Yes, the soft maple body wood is original! I couldn't believe it was a Squier when I saw it in person.
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the pickups also give it away as it reads "Duncan design", but they sound really great with this bass. most YouTube clips show guys slapping and soloing the bridge p/u only, but it can do a fat yet growly finger style sound too. I'm thinking that the soft maple is really different sounding than regular maple.
 
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Say hello to my little friend. Previous owner put the decals on, custom pickguard, and had the neck stained. I added the Fender neck plate and shaved down the neck and so now it's a perfect practice companion to my 2012 Am Jazz Std V (for those wondering, these basses have 18mm spacing, the same as Am Jazz Vs). Yes, the soft maple body wood is original! I couldn't believe it was a Squier when I saw it in person.

That's the nicest squier I've ever seen.
 
That is indeed a nice looking Squier. Nice score!

I just did this to my Squier P:
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My Squier J doesn't have a pickguard, thought I'd try it on my P bass.
I think I like it.

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Here's mine guys. Its a Cor-Tek Korean from 1993. The friend that I bought this from painted it grabber orange over the original red. So it has that 'vintage' look. ;) I added a Badass II
bridge and Fender '59 custom shops wired straight to the jack with only the original switch as a mute. I left the J PU in the bass but its not in the circuit and no pots either. I also just this week added a Hipshot extender. Soon I will have the frets redone as I play pretty hard and will also add a graphite nut at that time. This bass is contoured too
 

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I changed out the body, from the original Basswood to a SX 75LTD Ash body. Had to dowel up the neck, re-drill neck-body holes. Added the Babicz FCH bridge, and Audere pre... this is what I was looking for originally, an Ash bodied, maple necked 70's pickup spaced Jazz Bass!
 

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Has anyone put Hipshot Ultralites on a Squier Mustang yet?
I'm pondering putting a set on mine but was not sure which size will fit. The 3/8" or the 1/2"?
I've seen a couple of threads that talks about putting them on a MIJ reissue Mustang but I am assuming that the holes might be a different diameter than the Squier.
Since I have done all the mods to my Mustang, I am really enjoying it but it I think I am ready to replace the Squier tuners on it.
 
Well the pics will need to wait for another day. I'm still learning how to re-size and upload the pics I've taken but that day will come soon. I'm working on improving my 20 years behind the times technical skills with digital photography.

I can fix or modify my guitars and basses but digital cameras and photo managers still have me stumped for a while longer. I'm getting closer to success though.

There really isn't all that much to show with the Matt Freeman anyway. The only tricked out stuff was to replace the pickup with Bill Lawrence's Wilde P46 and restring it with GHS Precision Flats and set it up afterward for a half step dropped tuning.

Since the black/maple look was exactly what I wanted the improvements went into tone not cosmetics. It was money well spent too. $60 for a pickup and $20 for the set of flats and still with less than $400 into it this is one of the nicest PBasses I've ever owned and I've been playing MIA Fender Basses for over 35 years.

If anyone is contemplating a pickup change I can't say better than take a look at these Wilde P46s. Very transparent and responsive to eq adjustments both on the amp and the bass itself. Great definition and punch in low register all the way to an open E even in drop tuning.

Bill designed these with five pole pieces on each coil so the volume and tonal balance across all four strings is spot on. Best I've ever had on any Fender bass I've owned. Bill has had a great reputation across the years for his innovations in guitar pickups but it was nice to find that innovation carries over to his bass pickups as well. They don't need to take a backseat to anyone's and I'll be putting a set of his J45s in my Jazz soon.

Anyway, I continue to be truly impressed with these Squier CV Basses. I've been looking at getting this Matt Freeman for awhile now and it is truly a great bass. My CV Jazz is gonna have to sit it out a little more often from now on.
 
The holes need to be ,546 inch (14mm) to fit the 3/8" tuners. For the 1/2", .662" (17mm) I hope that helps. Minimums.

Thank you for the info. Now I just need to find out what size the holes for the tuners are on the Squier Mustang. I don't want to start taking off the tuners on my Mustang till I have the Hipshots ordered and in hand since this is my only bass for a few months.
Curious to know if all Squier Basses have the same size holes for the tuners and if so does anyone know the size? :bassist:
 
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