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Trouble cutting through (pf 500)

#81
CharlyG said:
why do you say that? Please expand. By saying it is an epic falsehood, you are telling us that low frequencies have less bandwidth than high frequencies..

PS - there is math involved.
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If what you said was true, then headphones wouldn't work, and you couldn't hear low notes in any room smaller than 50 sq ft. Bass waves do not need to develop to their full wavelength in order for you to hear them.
 
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#82
ok, here's what I am saying. If you stand in from of your speaker and play your bass with the band, you will hear certain freqs better than others. If you have a wireless, and go out about 20 feet and play your bass with a band, chances are you will need a tweak to get the best sound.

I once tried to use an 18 inch speaker in 70x25 metal classroom type trailer thingy. It was ALL mud. A 15 sounds good, a 12 sounds the best. an 18 outside sounds wonderful......same idea not enough room for the air it was moving..
 
#85
CharlyG said:
ok, here's what I am saying. If you stand in from of your speaker and play your bass with the band, you will hear certain freqs better than others. If you have a wireless, and go out about 20 feet and play your bass with a band, chances are you will need a tweak to get the best sound.
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Not if you use a tall stack or tilt your small cab up to where the sound hits your ears instead of your knees. Granted, true that some rooms are boomier than others. But that's not a case of the bass waves needing 40 feet to fully develop...it's a case of the larger low note waves bouncing around in the room and reinforcing the lows too much.
 
#86
But that's assuming a small stack. I had a run with the 8x10.

It could all be moot as we had that round sound(remember mudbuckers?), no mid range back in the day, and now a lot of bass is mostly mid range.
 
#88
There's the pickup height
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#91
JimmyM said:
I use an 810 on a lot of my gigs, and I never have a problem with it sounding different offstage as on unless the room is super weird acoustically. You must be very tall :D
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I've used 8x10s a fair bit too and I notice a difference from standing in front of the cab to moving a few feet to the side and the same goes for being in different places off the stage. It's no secret that 8x10s beam like a spotlight.
 
#92
CharlyG said:
It wasn't a visual test, it was auditory..... standing it front of speaker and standing in "audience".
An empirical test if you will...

and what about standing waves?
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I read an article once that said when you hear harmonics your brain hears the fundamental note, even if the cab or amp can't produce it
 
#94
I am currently playing in a quartet ( with two guitars and drums). In live situations I am the only one with a D.I. straight to the mixer, everyone else is mic'd. Guitars using microphones in front of their cabinets. In the venue where we play everything sounds good to my ears, i am well heard, and i adjust volume , mid cuts/boosts, and EQ where necessary, and I have no problem with the overall sound. However in the monitor (using in ear monitors) I can barely hear the bass, and i feel that i need to do an entirely different setup than the one that is coming out live from my amp. How should I go about dealing with that without sacrificing any of the two sounds?

Mind you the venue is small and any sound going to the audience is from our cabinets. There is no P.A. the mixer is there just for recording purposes. We record our performances, and my concern is my bass sound in the recordings.
 
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