there we were sitting in a very boring composition lecture, when the mad australian gave us part of the score of brian ferneyhough's 4th string quartet and played it to us. all well and good, you might say- a nice ultra modernistic, atonal piece to wake those lazy students up of a friday lunchtime! which is true. BUT there is a bit where it goes into 4/12 time. no thats not a typo. how would you work this out? i tried counting up the notes in each bar but due to the frankly unpleasant complexity i keep on getting different numbers. we tried to find something between an 8th and a 16th, but couldn't get it to make sense in relation to anything else. my clarinet playing compadre noted that he had played another piece by the very same composer (for solo clarinet, i think) which had used 4/10. so, any ideas? or is this just ol' ferneyhough being difficult and trying to wind us up? who knows.... you do! so speak up!