two 4x10 ampeg classics with SVT Pro4?

[guitarfrk03]

Hey guys,
Im sure there is a thread on this but couldn't find one?
I am playing through a svtpro4 head and a 4x10 classic cab. But I need more! I play in an ac/dc tribute band and am getting blown out by the guitars, If I add another 4x10 that should be enough? similar to a fridge set up right?
Any advice on this?
Thanks!

 

[73jbass]

Similar to a fridge,but with tweeters. Should be just fine.

 

[guitarfrk03]

Thanks 73! I shouldn't have any trouble powering the other cab right? What would be the best way to configure?

 

[73jbass]

I'd go bridged mono,and daisy chain the cabs for a 4 ohm load.

 

[Vanni]

are the cabs SVT410HLF (4 ohm) or SVT410HE (8 ohm)?

 

[guitarfrk03]

Hi Vanni....They are SVT410HE (8ohm)

 

[guitarfrk03]

But now im thinking I should get the 1x15 for the bottom instead of another 4x10?
Thoughts?

 

[BassmanPaul]

But now im thinking I should get the 1x15 for the bottom instead of another 4x10?
Thoughts?

Not a good idea, the 1x15 will always be a weak link. Two matching cabinets will always outperform two differering ones.

 

[guitarfrk03]

Hmmmm....i have seen allot of guys playing that combination 1x15 on bottom 4x10 top?
Seems like you would get the best of both worlds?
Anybody else have input on this? Or Maybe I just stick to the dual 4x10's?

 

[RickenBoogie]

Do a bit of research here on TB. A 410/115 set up is about as bad an idea as there is. Identical cabs are a sure bet to bass bliss. This myth that a 15 will add bottom to a 410 is completely false, and the 2 cabs together are limited to the weaker cab's output, in this case the single 15.

 

[Vanni]

Hi Vanni....They are SVT410HE (8ohm)

ok, so I would go with 73jbass suggestion.

("I'd go bridged mono,and daisy chain the cabs for a 4 ohm load.")

great rig, with two SVT410HE!!

 

[bassguppy]

Do a bit of research here on TB. A 410/115 set up is about as bad an idea as there is. Identical cabs are a sure bet to bass bliss. This myth that a 15 will add bottom to a 410 is completely false, and the 2 cabs together are limited to the weaker cab's output, in this case the single 15.

truth.

 

[guitarfrk03]

Thanks Guys!! two 4x10's it is then!

 

[CL400Peavey]

Not a good idea, the 1x15 will always be a weak link. Two matching cabinets will always outperform two differering ones.

+1 listen to Paul

Hmmmm....i have seen allot of guys playing that combination 1x15 on bottom 4x10 top?
Seems like you would get the best of both worlds?
Anybody else have input on this? Or Maybe I just stick to the dual 4x10's?

You get power handling, sensitivity, and frequency response mis matches that do not play well together. Regardless of what you have seen its not the best set up if you are buying new gear.

Do a bit of research here on TB. A 410/115 set up is about as bad an idea as there is. Identical cabs are a sure bet to bass bliss. This myth that a 15 will add bottom to a 410 is completely false, and the 2 cabs together are limited to the weaker cab's output, in this case the single 15.

+100

 

[spaz21387]

but with the svt 4 he could run the 15 on a different channel than the 4x10. The downside is the low power handeling of the 15.

 

[TimSterling1981]

Do a bit of research here on TB. A 410/115 set up is about as bad an idea as there is. Identical cabs are a sure bet to bass bliss. This myth that a 15 will add bottom to a 410 is completely false, and the 2 cabs together are limited to the weaker cab's output, in this case the single 15.

Sort of true. I have a 4x10"/1x15" setup. While it IS limited when using it with my SVT-3 Pro head, I've used it bi-amped with an SVT-4 and it sounded absolutely amazing. If you can dedicate two independent signals to two speaker cabs, the 4x10"/1x15" setup really works wonders.

If you want to run a single signal from one amp to a 4x10" and a 1x15", your best bet is to replace your stock low-wattage speaker from the 1x15" with a speaker that gives you around the combined wattage of the speakers from the 4x10" (example: Ampeg SVT410HE is a 500w [RMS] cab, whereas the Ampeg SVT15E is a 200w [RMS] cab. Simply replace the stock 15" speaker with a 500w, 8-ohm one, and you'll have two cabs with matched wattage, so you can crank the volume up a little more without having to worry about blowing the 15").

Hope this helps, and this is just my experience from how things sound to my ears. Everyones' ears are different, you just have to find what sounds best to you. Try bi-amping first.

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[BassmanPaul]

but with the svt 4 he could run the 15 on a different channel than the 4x10. The downside is the low power handeling of the 15.

Thus it will add nothing to the mix. A second channel will make very little difference to the situation.

 

[CL400Peavey]

Simply replace the stock 15" speaker with a 500w, 8-ohm one, and you'll have two cabs with matched wattage, so you can crank the volume up a little more without having to worry about blowing the 15").

Not too many truly 500 watt capable 15's out there... and it is more likely to be more economical to just double up on the 410.

Thus it will add nothing to the mix. A second channel will make very little difference to the situation.

+1

Poor addition to sensitivity or power handling... whats the point?

 

[JimmyM]

Hmmmm....i have seen allot of guys playing that combination 1x15 on bottom 4x10 top?
Seems like you would get the best of both worlds?
Anybody else have input on this? Or Maybe I just stick to the dual 4x10's?

That's engineering by looks, bro. A 115 is no guarantee you'll get more lows out of your rig. Witness the SVT 410hlf, which goes way lower than any 115 I've ever used, and it uses 10"s.