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[reggie hall]

Hello folks i have two simple questions,first off will a 2x10 1x15 combo be as loud as a 4x10?? I've heard the more speakers the louder you could get ,if that's true i guess the 4x10 will be louder just want opinions from experience......next question im curious of how the bugera new bass cabs sound,i know they look amazing and have a amazing price but not sure of the sound

 

[jlepre]

I'm no expert but it's not the NUMBER of speakers as much as the surface area of the speakers. My guess is that they would be pretty close, but it also depends on the speakers and cabinets in question. If they speakers and cabs are identical then they would be very close. JMHO YMMV

 

[Downunderwonder]

Roughly similarly loud.

I run 210 vertically on 115. Both 8 ohm. Many advantages over a 410 on the floor which I can't hear over the general racket even though it's blowing up the room.

 

[Linnin]

next question im curious of how the bugera new bass cabs sound,i know they look amazing and have a amazing price but not sure of the sound

Buy one and find out!

 

[reggie hall]

Buy one and find out!

Dont want to do that and be unhappy,non of my local music stores carry them so it would be a online order

 

[Jim Carr]

...will a 2x10 1x15 combo be as loud as a 4x10??...

Really depends on the cabinets involved, but in general, no, IMHO. The reason being that either the 210 or 115 will typically be the weak link that limits your clean volume. With a 410, that problem has been designed away.

 

[reggie hall]

Really depends on the cabilinlinvolved, but in general, no, IMHO. The reason being that either the 210 or 115 will typically be the weak link that limits your clean volume. With a 410, that problem has been designed away.

Makes sense,my amp is two 500w channel so would that still effect the weak link issue?

 

[Robroy]

Hello folks i have two simple questions,first off will a 2x10 1x15 combo be as loud as a 4x10?? I've heard the more speakers the louder you could get ,if that's true i guess the 4x10 will be louder just want opinions from experience......next question im curious of how the bugera new bass cabs sound,i know they look amazing and have a amazing price but not sure of the sound

I have done extensive testing with various brands, models and speaker impedance with all sorts of speaker combinations. My exhaustive research has come to a solid conclusion on all sorts of questions similar to yours.

But to nail this specific question, "will a 2x10 + 1x15 combo be as loud as a 4x10?" the answer is:

Yes. 1.42333 db louder.

The brand, impedance and speaker and cabinet material has no impact whatsoever.

Oddly, I found that if you use aluminum, rather than copper wire, it's another .6792 db louder. I think it's because aluminum is lighter than copper.

 

[reggie hall]

I have done extensive testing with virious brands, models and speaker impedance with all sorts of speaker combinations. My exhaustive research has come to a solid conclusion on all sorts of questions similar to yours.

But to nail this specific question, "will a 2x10 + 1x15 combo be as loud as a 4x10?" the answer is:

Yes. 1.42333 db louder.

The brand, impedance and speaker and cabinet material has no impact whatsoever.

Oddly, I found that if you use aluminum, rather than copper wire, it's another .6792 db louder. I think it's because aluminum is lighter than copper.

Wow good stuff there, then I hear that combo won't cut through a mix like 410 will, I thought about going the 210+115 route but I was told that one of the Cubs would out power the other and that the 15 is too mudy

 

[Robroy]

Wow good stuff there, then I hear that combo won't cut through a mix like 410 will, I thought about going the 210+115 route but I was told that one of the Cubs would out power the other and that the 15 is too mudy

I expected a bunch of members to hammer me on my smart alec response, and thought their responses would be really good information to help you wrap a context around your question and its potential answer.

To be blunt, your question is like asking if a Ford will corner better than a Chevy. Any serious answer would need to be prefaced with roughly 30 to 100 qualifying questions and a discussion of all the aspects of a speaker that play into its sound, other than the single attribute of number of speakers.

Or was the OP in the spirit of my original answer?

 

[reggie hall]

I expected a bunch of members to hammer me on my smart alec response, and thought their responses would be really good information to help you wrap a context around your question and its potential answer.

To be blunt, your question is like asking if a Ford will corner better than a Chevy. Any serious answer would need to be prefaced with roughly 30 to 100 qualifying questions and a discussion of all the aspects of a speaker that play into its sound, other than the single attribute of number of speakers.

Or was the OP in the spirit of my original answer?

Your research seems just about right to me,i never played 210+115 combo

 

[Robroy]

Your research seems just about right to me,i never played 210+115 combo

Well, then. Thread killed!

 

[Joe Nerve]

I don't know much about the science or electronics around this stuff, but I've been through countless amps and combos - looking for a loud, punchy, and articulate sound that will cut through any mix and I've finally stumbled upon my holy grail. I have a Carvin BX700 head (which is one of the most versatile heads available, IMO), and at first was using it with a Bergantino NV610. It was awesome, but when I bought my new car I needed something smaller. And lighter is always nice too. I took a gamble and ordered myself 2 Carvin 1X15MBEs. At $195 each, these can't be beat. They give me all the volume and sound I ever wanted. Couldn't recommend them highly enough. And I should add that I originally wanted to go with a 1x15 - 2x10 setup cuz I wanted the higher end punch, but got these because they stacked perfectly. I get all the crispness out of them that I could ever want. No regrets. I love my rig.

115MBE Micro Bass Extension Cabinet

 

[Korladis]

I'd rather use a 2x15.

 

[Robert Sperling]

I run the Carvin B2000 with 2 BR410-4's and an Ampeg SVT7 Pro pushing a 2x15 fender Bassman, and can tell you the 2x15 isn't any "boomier" or as loud, but sounds pretty awesome with the Ampeg rig giving more of a classic growl and the Carvin giving a clean modern tone. I guess what I'm saying is based on my rig, I would guess that 2x10's and 1x15 should pair pretty well as far as speaker mass and power distribution to each cabinet,but doesn't work so well with 4x10's per 15 as the 15 will receive 4x the power, hence me using 2 separate rigs.

 

[Munjibunga]

I have done extensive testing with various brands, models and speaker impedance with all sorts of speaker combinations. My exhaustive research has come to a solid conclusion on all sorts of questions similar to yours.

But to nail this specific question, "will a 2x10 + 1x15 combo be as loud as a 4x10?" the answer is:

Yes. 1.42333 db louder.

The brand, impedance and speaker and cabinet material has no impact whatsoever.

Oddly, I found that if you use aluminum, rather than copper wire, it's another .6792 db louder. I think it's because aluminum is lighter than copper.

... so not discernibly louder (even if you were serious).

 

[reggie hall]

So I have some yes and some no

 

[el murdoque]

you have some yes, some no and some intelligent people that say that this cannot be answered because too many facts are unclear.

 

[edencab]

Traynor Amps

Traynor (Yorkville), long time 50+ years, Canadian company , made in Canada , I figure these guys know a thing or two about cab design....

 

[Joe Nerve]

So I have some yes and some no

Yes.