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Two Notes Revolt Bass

I'm really wondering what would be the difference in sound between the ReVolt and the Le Bass... does the 2 peals share the same circuity? do the ReVolt have some baked in sound setup different from the on of the Le Bass? since the EQ section is limited in both, especially for the clean channel, I expect there's a lot of room for baking in a specific sound. For sure the ReVolt has a more pratic layout and wiring options, but it can do what the Le Bass can, can't it? I'm really looking for 1 clean + 1 parallel dirt sounds that can go always on more than having 4 sounds that can be switched easily during live, but if the ReVolt can replicate the Le Bass they will be a nice addition. What's Two Notes position about that? Please let me know you tought about it and if someone has the chance post a direct comparison between the two pedals !!

Hi James,

Ross from Two notes here. Although Le Bass and ReVolt Bass share a similar lineage, ReVolt Bass has been developed from the ground up and features an entirely new preamp design as well as channel voicing. With ReVolt Bass we wanted to provide users with a simple control arsenal to quickly get a great tone married with practicality for live performance and studio usage scenarios. With ReVolt there is no fusion modes as per the Le Bass, however there are 3 channels and a Dry / Wet Blend on Channel 3. We would like to add that if you have a Le Bass and a ReVolt Bass, you can actually 4-Cable the two units together for a monster 4-channel setup!

Please let me know if there is anything else I can help to clarify for you today.

Kind regards,

Ross
 
I think the LeBass is unique and different from other preamps.
I run the LeBass is cold fusion mode and utilize the parametric mids to change genres.

Losing those features on the revolt is a dealbreaker for me, I’m sure it works well otherwise.
 
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Currently running a VT Bass Deluxe into a BK Butler Real Tube pedal with a 12AU7 and the gain knob between 1 and 2. Sounds mean for that touch of grit, but my Source Audio C4 Synth doesn't seem to get along with a touch of grit. And the range of usable light gain before the BK Butler becomes a straight up tube overdrive monster is minuscule. Because that's what it's supposed to be. Long story short, I need something that can do clean tube and dirty tube.
 
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Has anybody played both the Revolt Bass and one of those tube preamps by Sushi Box? Wondering how the tones compare? I was all set to buy a LeBass, but then heard the Revolt was coming out. Waited on that to drop, but just discovered Sushi Box. Now I don't know what to impulse buy, too many solid options!
The underground accelerator is a very nice preamp. Adds lots of girth and warmth. It has the old style tone stack where the mids are mostly cut.

However the LeBass can do most of that and can also get aggressive if you want. More control over the mids on the LeBass. LeBass has speakersim also if you want that.

depends on the sound you are going for.
 
depends on the sound you are going for.

I've never had an amp preference. Played Trace as a kid, then bought an SVT4. For practices and smaller shows, it's my lil blue Ampeg solid state combo. I run a 4 foot pedalboard, got aggressive drives covered, just need a touch of grit for one channel and clean & punchy for the other times I use the C4 or play dub reggae.

Surprisingly, my fake Ampeg pedal into a misused tube overdrive pedal gets a little farty when trying to play lower notes! ‍♂️
 
So, I think I found my most favorite thing to do with the Drive channel...

I turned the gain call the way down, turned the blend all the way to dry, slight bass boost, slight mid boost, healthy treble boost, and it's a beautifully full clean channel with better definition than the Clean channel! It has the same warmth, but a bit less boom, than the clean channel. I used it all night last night with my Am. Ultra P and my Am. Ultra J5. After I got my board setup and dialed in, I can't recall touching any EQ knobs, basses or pedal, last night. It sounded killa' all night.

I'm gonna play around with it this week, and I'll run it this weekend with my EBMM SRS 4H & 5HH, but I've got a solid baseline to tweak from.

Not sure that's what anyone from Two Notes wants to hear, but that's where I'm at with mine...;):thumbsup::D
 
Good evening @Romain909

Thanks for getting in touch. We have stock arriving this week so we would anticipate a 7-day turnaround in order that the unit can be fully tested and modified before shipping. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with today.

Kind regards,

Ross
 
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Sorry everyone, long post is long :D

I was reading this with interest and was about to pull the trigger on a ReVolt until I read about the potentially low volume headphone output. Sufficient volume and control of it are a must. There's nothing in the manual about volume control, so I guess that means each of the channel volumes would need to be changed to balance this out, or lower the volume of the instrument, which would affect the pedal's responsiveness and gain?

I was already 50-50 about the fixed Ampeg-style cab sim. Some demos sounded great, others were so-so. Overall the tones of the ReVolt were really great so I thought maybe I could work with it. I was about to buy a Le Bass NOS or second-hand until I noticed it doesn't have AUX input.

For context, I have used an MXR M-80 Bass DI+ for 20+ years. The only cons to that beast being the significantly different clean vs distorted tones (thanks to that pesky colour pre-shape) and a lack of comprehensive features. I give it a leave-pass for that, it still rocks, but not for what I need now.

I recently picked up a Darkglass Microtubes Infinity, with which I have now run two church events. Several issues with the Infinity bug me:

1. Unable to get the right clean/tube channel blend, because the truly clean part of the signal is quashed by an adjustable low-pass filter that maxes out at 500Hz. This means everything above the point I set this is lost. The only way those frequencies can reach the end is through the preamp emulator, which colours them quite severely and they aren't as nice and clear as the natural bass tone.

2. No FX loop and according to DG, hardware limitations prevent this from ever being a reality. Shame because chorus/delay/reverb and many other effects often need to be after any distortions and tone shaping devices BUT should be before any cab sims. On my board, chorus and delay/reverb are muddy.

3. Some very 'interesting' harmonic distortions. The more I use this thing the more I hear some very strange things happening to my tone. Some of the distortions are unusable, note fundamentals are lost in dissonance. The compressor is a bit odd in this respect as well. I just don't know if I am that happy with how it is processing the note envelope and spectrum.

What does the Infinity do right? Overall it succeeds in delivering some good tones, the cab sims are excellent as far as I can tell. I have worked all the EQs hard to retain my natural tone and try to emulate a nice clear 4x10 style cab, hard to say if I am fighting that against the inherent EQs... My traditional rig is a GK 700RB-II with an SWR Henry 8x8 so I am aiming for a similar clear, punchy but still warm sound. The Infinity has a Bluetooth audio connection, great for practicing along with songs, metronome etc - it also has AUX input. The headphone output has a dedicated volume control.

In recent years I have done what many of us have done, buy, try, not happy, sell at a loss, rinse and repeat. Right now I am simply seeking to avoid poor choices.

All that said, I applaud so many of these manufacturers. After all, I am not producing this stuff, you are, and you do a fine fine job. We love ya! However, it really seems that in this DI space everyone is 'nearly there but not quite'. Yes I am fussy, but why shouldn't I be?

Two Notes, if five things were different about the ReVolt Bass, you would have me. The first two are deal-breakers. The other three are niceties which would definitely bump the price up, but when the Infinity was AUD$300 more than the ReVolt, what does this matter? You would then have something approaching near perfection, in my opinion. Maybe you could sell this thing as ReVolt Deluxe or something... and phase out the ReVolt eventually.

1. Selection of cab sims. How about a three-way switch? Give us an 8x10 fridge, a modern 4x10 with a flatter maybe slightly mid-focused tone, and either a 4x12 for those who love bass through guitar cabs or a 2x15. That ought to cover it, no? We don't need a digital IR on this thing, just a little choice and not being forced into an Ampeg box. I don't have money or space for a Torpedo, sorry. I just want something that helps give FOH a quality source.

2. Headphone volume control.

3. NICETY: A mid frequency control on the clean channel. If you're not prepared to add more cab sims, we need some control here and not in the SansAmp way of "oh just turn the bass and treble down and the gain/volume up". One extra knob, unless you want to implement parametric, this way you have 6 smaller knobs in that space, symmetrical :)

4. NICETY/ESSENTIAL: Separate tone controls for each of the dirt and drive channels. In my ideal use, I would be looking for a nice warm bitey rock dirt sound. On the drive channel, I would be seeking a more wooly sound, sort of like a tighter Big Muff. At least something with more gain and fatness. It wouldn't take much imagination to see that these two tone profiles are quite different, so if I think about whether this pedal will suit my need, I am concerned I will be battling a compromised shared EQ. I was prepared to try/buy and learn that *maybe* this isn't a problem, but I don't know. While we are at it, just add a blend to the dirt channel also. Four more knobs total.

5. NICETY: Maybe multi-voltage capability? If it runs at 12V, can it potentially run at 18V? Reason being, some pedal board power supplies have 12V outlets, others have 18V. You would open up opportunities here, specifically not having to use an additional power supply just for your unit. I understand the challenges of powering a valve :)

Maybe this makes sense, maybe it doesn't. Just putting it out there! What I seek feels a little Unicorn-ish:

1. DI with the usual ground-lift trimmings, bypass/parallel output
2. Cab sim (however basic but not limiting), cab sim should not apply to bypassed modes or bypass output
3. Clean channel with independent tone controls
4. At least one dirt channel with independent tone controls and some blend capability
5. AUX in (Bluetooth is awesome but not crucial), headphone out 1/8" etc with dedicated volume control
6. FX loop - post EQ/dirt and pre-cab sim of course
7. Compressor - take it or leave it, I run one at the start of the chain
8. Tuner - take it or leave it, I run one at start of chain
9. Other FX - nope, none needed, I'd like to have the purest DI functions (plus dirt) done right rather than being compromised by compromised chorus or filter etc
10. Realistic and straightforward controls. For example, compressor shouldn't be on a footswitch. Who in their right mind turns this on and off during a gig?
11. GOES TO 11! No... a sensible patch layout. DI and bypass output on left, inputs and FX loop send and return on right. Exception being everything on top, but remember these are usually thrown at the end of a board, so the XLR needs to stick out there. XLR on top means you can't place pedals above it on a board.
12. Recording interface - nope, this is supposed to be a road-going tool, you're never going to add a decent recording interface to rival competitors dedicated to this cause for a decent price. If anyone is recording on the road, they will choose a dedicated tool

I'd like to find something that fits the bill. I hope one day to find it!
 
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Sorry everyone, long post is long :D

I was reading this with interest and was about to pull the trigger on a ReVolt until I read about the potentially low volume headphone output. Sufficient volume and control of it are a must. There's nothing in the manual about volume control, so I guess that means each of the channel volumes would need to be changed to balance this out, or lower the volume of the instrument, which would affect the pedal's responsiveness and gain?

I was already 50-50 about the fixed Ampeg-style cab sim. Some demos sounded great, others were so-so. Overall the tones of the ReVolt were really great so I thought maybe I could work with it. I was about to buy a Le Bass NOS or second-hand until I noticed it doesn't have AUX input.

For context, I have used an MXR M-80 Bass DI+ for 20+ years. The only cons to that beast being the significantly different clean vs distorted tones (thanks to that pesky colour pre-shape) and a lack of comprehensive features. I give it a leave-pass for that, it still rocks, but not for what I need now.

I recently picked up a Darkglass Microtubes Infinity, with which I have now run two church events. Several issues with the Infinity bug me:

1. Unable to get the right clean/tube channel blend, because the truly clean part of the signal is quashed by an adjustable low-pass filter that maxes out at 500Hz. This means everything above the point I set this is lost. The only way those frequencies can reach the end is through the preamp emulator, which colours them quite severely and they aren't as nice and clear as the natural bass tone.

2. No FX loop and according to DG, hardware limitations prevent this from ever being a reality. Shame because chorus/delay/reverb and many other effects often need to be after any distortions and tone shaping devices BUT should be before any cab sims. On my board, chorus and delay/reverb are muddy.

3. Some very 'interesting' harmonic distortions. The more I use this thing the more I hear some very strange things happening to my tone. Some of the distortions are unusable, note fundamentals are lost in dissonance. The compressor is a bit odd in this respect as well. I just don't know if I am that happy with how it is processing the note envelope and spectrum.

What does the Infinity do right? Overall it succeeds in delivering some good tones, the cab sims are excellent as far as I can tell. I have worked all the EQs hard to retain my natural tone and try to emulate a nice clear 4x10 style cab, hard to say if I am fighting that against the inherent EQs... My traditional rig is a GK 700RB-II with an SWR Henry 8x8 so I am aiming for a similar clear, punchy but still warm sound. The Infinity has a Bluetooth audio connection, great for practicing along with songs, metronome etc - it also has AUX input. The headphone output has a dedicated volume control.

In recent years I have done what many of us have done, buy, try, not happy, sell at a loss, rinse and repeat. Right now I am simply seeking to avoid poor choices.

All that said, I applaud so many of these manufacturers. After all, I am not producing this stuff, you are, and you do a fine fine job. We love ya! However, it really seems that in this DI space everyone is 'nearly there but not quite'. Yes I am fussy, but why shouldn't I be?

Two Notes, if five things were different about the ReVolt Bass, you would have me. The first two are deal-breakers. The other three are niceties which would definitely bump the price up, but when the Infinity was AUD$300 more than the ReVolt, what does this matter? You would then have something approaching near perfection, in my opinion. Maybe you could sell this thing as ReVolt Deluxe or something... and phase out the ReVolt eventually.

1. Selection of cab sims. How about a three-way switch? Give us an 8x10 fridge, a modern 4x10 with a flatter maybe slightly mid-focused tone, and either a 4x12 for those who love bass through guitar cabs or a 2x15. That ought to cover it, no? We don't need a digital IR on this thing, just a little choice and not being forced into an Ampeg box. I don't have money or space for a Torpedo, sorry. I just want something that helps give FOH a quality source.

2. Headphone volume control.

3. NICETY: A mid frequency control on the clean channel. If you're not prepared to add more cab sims, we need some control here and not in the SansAmp way of "oh just turn the bass and treble down and the gain/volume up". One extra knob, unless you want to implement parametric, this way you have 6 smaller knobs in that space, symmetrical :)

4. NICETY/ESSENTIAL: Separate tone controls for each of the dirt and drive channels. In my ideal use, I would be looking for a nice warm bitey rock dirt sound. On the drive channel, I would be seeking a more wooly sound, sort of like a tighter Big Muff. At least something with more gain and fatness. It wouldn't take much imagination to see that these two tone profiles are quite different, so if I think about whether this pedal will suit my need, I am concerned I will be battling a compromised shared EQ. I was prepared to try/buy and learn that *maybe* this isn't a problem, but I don't know. While we are at it, just add a blend to the dirt channel also. Four more knobs total.

5. NICETY: Maybe multi-voltage capability? If it runs at 12V, can it potentially run at 18V? Reason being, some pedal board power supplies have 12V outlets, others have 18V. You would open up opportunities here, specifically not having to use an additional power supply just for your unit. I understand the challenges of powering a valve :)

Maybe this makes sense, maybe it doesn't. Just putting it out there! What I seek feels a little Unicorn-ish:

1. DI with the usual ground-lift trimmings, bypass/parallel output
2. Cab sim (however basic but not limiting), cab sim should not apply to bypassed modes or bypass output
3. Clean channel with independent tone controls
4. At least one dirt channel with independent tone controls and some blend capability
5. AUX in (Bluetooth is awesome but not crucial), headphone out 1/8" etc with dedicated volume control
6. FX loop - post EQ/dirt and pre-cab sim of course
7. Compressor - take it or leave it, I run one at the start of the chain
8. Tuner - take it or leave it, I run one at start of chain
9. Other FX - nope, none needed, I'd like to have the purest DI functions (plus dirt) done right rather than being compromised by compromised chorus or filter etc
10. Realistic and straightforward controls. For example, compressor shouldn't be on a footswitch. Who in their right mind turns this on and off during a gig?
11. GOES TO 11! No... a sensible patch layout. DI and bypass output on left, inputs and FX loop send and return on right. Exception being everything on top, but remember these are usually thrown at the end of a board, so the XLR needs to stick out there. XLR on top means you can't place pedals above it on a board.
12. Recording interface - nope, this is supposed to be a road-going tool, you're never going to add a decent recording interface to rival competitors dedicated to this cause for a decent price. If anyone is recording on the road, they will choose a dedicated tool

I'd like to find something that fits the bill. I hope one day to find it!

Hi @WestOfBen

Ross from Two notes here - thanks so much for the post! In terms of your question concerning the ReVolt Headphone volume, this is actioned via the channel volumes as you have noted.

One of the great use cases for the ReVolt Bass, is combining this with our C.A.B. M+ (299USD) which gives you access to our expansive library of bass cabinets as well as power amp emulations to further tailor your tone. However we do take your comments on board regarding more on-board options and have certainly relayed this to our dev team - the same applies for the rest of your comments and we have forwarded them on for consideration too. Please let me know if there is anything further I can help you with or clarify today!
 
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Hi @WestOfBen

Ross from Two notes here - thanks so much for the post! In terms of your question concerning the ReVolt Headphone volume, this is actioned via the channel volumes as you have noted.

One of the great use cases for the ReVolt Bass, is combining this with our C.A.B. M+ (299USD) which gives you access to our expansive library of bass cabinets as well as power amp emulations to further tailor your tone. However we do take your comments on board regarding more on-board options and have certainly relayed this to our dev team - the same applies for the rest of your comments and we have forwarded them on for consideration too. Please let me know if there is anything further I can help you with or clarify today!
That’s it Ross.

More on Board options would be a plus. Eytschpi wants a compressor, I am not sure I want one on board… I prefer using separate pedals, but we could imagine a 4 options switch that let the user choose between 4 cab sim. This way it does not replace the Cab M but it improves the versatility of the ReVolt. The complete Two Notes setup still requires a Revolt AND a CabM+ this way.


The EQ channels is the weirdest part of the ReVolt to me. I would not mind having either :

-ONE complete Eq for every channel and since it saves spaces, make it a complete EQ like the Darkglass Vintage Ultra (the most important improvement option to me)

OR

-3 bands Eq for every channel (smaller knobs is OK). I don’t need it but I guess some bassists want a different EQ between their clean and OD channels.

The pedal design is awesome. Keep it as much as you can.
Keep the 3 channels
Keep the visible tube.
Keep everything else.

Call it ReVolt Bass + and voilà haha
 
I totally agree.
Compiling customers reviews and listening to them to a certain extent is a mandatory step toward creating the best possible products but also engaging your community with your brand.

However this is often neglected. I know very well this takes time, efforts and a lot of introspection but you guys are doing it the RIGHT way. That’s the right path
 
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That’s it Ross.

More on Board options would be a plus. Eytschpi wants a compressor, I am not sure I want one on board… I prefer using separate pedals, but we could imagine a 4 options switch that let the user choose between 4 cab sim. This way it does not replace the Cab M but it improves the versatility of the ReVolt. The complete Two Notes setup still requires a Revolt AND a CabM+ this way.


The EQ channels is the weirdest part of the ReVolt to me. I would not mind having either :

-ONE complete Eq for every channel and since it saves spaces, make it a complete EQ like the Darkglass Vintage Ultra (the most important improvement option to me)

OR

-3 bands Eq for every channel (smaller knobs is OK). I don’t need it but I guess some bassists want a different EQ between their clean and OD channels.

The pedal design is awesome. Keep it as much as you can.
Keep the 3 channels
Keep the visible tube.
Keep everything else.

Call it ReVolt Bass + and voilà haha

Noted and understood - thanks so much for clarifying! Consider it sent back to our team now!
 
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Thanks for listening to us, Ross! And of course thanks for replying. Responses like yours go a long way toward bridging the gap between us. Great customer service always wins, even if some of us aren’t your customers yet.

Not a problem whatsoever! Customer feedback is of paramount importance to us so if you have any suggestions, please keep it coming!
 
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I totally agree.
Compiling customers reviews and listening to them to a certain extent is a mandatory step toward creating the best possible products but also engaging your community with your brand.

However this is often neglected. I know very well this takes time, efforts and a lot of introspection but you guys are doing it the RIGHT way. That’s the right path

Great to hear! Thanks for the kind words - we sincerely appreciate it!