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Ultra boutique P bass pickups

Benson Custom P pickup review

I might be late to this party since this pickup was reviewed by Tbass members Snaxster in 2016 and Yahboy in 2017. Nevertheless, here are my notes.

This pickup is meticulously crafted, attention to detail is high. The magnets are labeled Bass and Treble.
The pickup is rated 11k and it sounds like it. It has lots of output! It uses .195 diameter Alnico 5 magnets, and it is hand wound, using 42 awg enamel wire

The first thing that did strike my ears is how balanced it is and how even the output through the frequency spectrum is. It’s capable of a really crisp tone or a really bassy one at the other end of the spectrum. There’s lots of amplitude and it’s all usable. The second element which surprised me is the fact that this pickup delivers a lot of high frequencies. It’s crisp and detailed if you want it to be. Roll up the highs and it becomes warm and woolly. It can sound vintage at times, but it does not sound overly modern either. The pickup is quite dynamic as well and can be really punchy. Upon further listening some settings have a little bit of a P bass honky tone leading me to think it has a bump in the mid frequencies. It made me think of a Fender made pickup from the past without the harshness. Again, the pickup is a little bit of a chameleon which can both deliver a crisp tone even with in my case, with Thomastik flat wound and big warm Motown type tone. It does all that with a muscular output and some harmonic richness.

Some overwound pickups can sound simple and this is not the case at all here. I tend to think that with fresh round wound this pickup must be really bright but nothing that cannot be fixed by the tone control knob. Highs can be tamed but they cannot be created by EQ if they are not there in the first place. Enharmonics really pop on this pickup and have a vivid larger than life quality.

Overall, I like the tone of this pickup and wanted to check how it fares against three good pickups I own: A Fender Custom shop pickup that came with a Custom Shop bass, a Kloppmann and an Arcane 65L overwound pickup. To my surprise it held its own against these top shelf pickups. It’s by far the brightest of the lot and has the most output as well. They all have their own personalities, but they all deliver really good tone. Considering Benson Custom P pickup is the least expensive of this group, I am impressed. It’s not for a bass player who wants the big, bassy totally warm pickup (I would choose Aguilar for warmth or Fender Pure Vintage 63 for bassy). Likewise, it’s not as hot and grindy as a DiMarzio Model P to pick extremes.

The pickup thrives by its balance, wide range, and beautiful, very musical tone. String to string balance is also excellent. Note that one of the magnets is label as bass and the other one as treble. It’s the only P bass pickup I've tested to be labeled in such a way.

It’s not a good pickup for DUB and reggae music but it covers a lot of ground. In the mix this pickup works because of the highs it can deliver and its punchy slightly aggressive tone. It might be just the right pickup for players who want that trebly rock tone or for players who have a bass lacking in highs. I also think it would be a good pickup for recording. The highs remind me of a Seymour Duncan SPB-1 but with a beefier overall tone.
 
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Benson Custom P pickup review

I might be late to this party since this pickup was reviewed by Tbass members Snaxster in 2016 and Yahboy in 2017. Nevertheless, here are my notes.

This pickup is meticulously crafted, attention to detail is high. The magnets are labeled Bass and Treble.
The pickup is rated 11k and it sounds like it. It has lots of output! It uses .195 diameter Alnico 5 magnets, and it is hand wound, using 42 awg enamel wire

The first thing that did strike my ears is how balanced it is and how even the output through the frequency spectrum is. It’s capable of a really crisp tone or a really bassy one at the other end of the spectrum. There’s lots of amplitude and it’s all usable. The second element which surprised me is the fact that this pickup delivers a lot of high frequencies. It’s crisp and detailed if you want it to be. Roll up the highs and it becomes warm and woolly. It can sound vintage at times, but it does not sound overly modern either. The pickup is quite dynamic as well and can be really punchy. Upon further listening some settings have a little bit of a P bass honky tone leading me to think it has a bump in the mid frequencies. It made me think of a Fender made pickup from the past without the harshness. Again, the pickup is a little bit of a chameleon which can both deliver a crisp tone even with in my case, with Thomastik flat wound and big warm Motown type tone. It does all that with a muscular output and some harmonic richness.

Some overwound pickups can sound simple and this is not the case at all here. I tend to think that with fresh round wound this pickup must be really bright but nothing that cannot be fixed by the tone control knob. Highs can be tamed but they cannot be created by EQ if they are not there in the first place. Enharmonics really pop on this pickup and have a vivid larger than life quality.

Overall, I like the tone of this pickup and wanted to check how it fares against three good pickups I own: A Fender Custom shop pickup that came with a Custom Shop bass, a Kloppmann and an Arcane 65L overwound pickup. To my surprise it held its own against these top shelf pickups. It’s by far the brightest of the lot and has the most output as well. They all have their own personalities, but they all deliver really good tone. Considering Benson Custom P pickup is the least expensive of this group, I am impressed. It’s not for a bass player who wants the big, bassy totally warm pickup (I would choose Aguilar for warmth or Fender Pure Vintage 63 for bassy). Likewise, it’s not as hot and grindy as a DiMarzio Model P to pick extremes.

The pickup thrives by its balance, wide range, and beautiful, very musical tone. String to string balance is also excellent. Note that one of the magnets is label as bass and the other one as treble. It’s the only P bass pickup I've tested to be labeled in such a way.

It’s not a good pickup for DUB and reggae music but it covers a lot of ground. In the mix this pickup works because of the highs it can deliver and its punchy slightly aggressive tone. It might be just the right pickup for players who want that trebly rock tone or for players who have a bass lacking in highs. I also think it would be a good pickup for recording. The highs remind me of a Seymour Duncan SPB-1 but with a beefier overall tone.

Great review @Laurent -- how would this compare to the Fralin P?
 
Just going to chime in real quick: I too have gone down the P bass pickup rabbit hole in the last several years, sampling various boutique and mass-produced examples. My holy grail P pickup is the Schuyler Dean 60s P pickup. I would compare it favorably to Lollar, but more "open" (which I like). The Schuyler Dean 60s P is syrupy and sweet, and probably one of the best-built pickups I've come across. I highly recommend trying one.
 
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Just going to chime in real quick: I too have gone down the P bass pickup rabbit hole in the last several years, sampling various boutique and mass-produced examples. My holy grail P pickup is the Schuyler Dean 60s P pickup. I would compare it favorably to Lollar, but more "open" (which I like). The Schuyler Dean 60s P is syrupy and sweet, and probably one of the best-built pickups I've come across. I highly recommend trying one.

hey. I wonder if you still have the pickup, could do a sample of how it sounds?



Did you use flats or rounds?
 
I'm trying to find an example of a lindy fralins overwind by +5%. I'm interested to listen to how it sounds.

I am a massive fan of the tone Paul Jackson had during his headhunters with herbie hancock. It is dark and smooth. barks when needed. I would like a little more clarity so ghost notes could be heard so my thinking is a +5% overwound rather than a 10%.

I have listen to loads lollar 10% and they definitely have the dark smooth tone. just a little to dark for me
 
Replying to both J-Bass and soulstar...I have the pickup in my 2002 USA FSR 70s Precision with a set of Blue Steel nickel rounds, 46-102. I may be able to put a sample together this weekend.

As far as how the Schuyler Dean pickup sounds compared to the rest of the P pickups that I've sampled...the two others that really stand out in my mind as having *the sound* that I'm after were the Lollar standard wind and the Novak PB-V. The Bare Knuckle '58 was also quite good, though a bit scooped (by design) and maybe a tad too shrill for me. I'm a big fan of "open" or "hollow"-sounding P bass pickups that have a slight roll off in the highs, especially when installed on rounds-equipped basses. I love that hollow P-bass-with-a-pick sound, and the Dean accomplishes that in spades. I don't like overwound P bass pickups as they sound too compressed and lacking in detail to me -- not organic enough.

My flats P (2010 Highway One) currently has a Seymour Duncan Antiquity II in it and it's fine, but I think I might try a Schuyler Dean there too. The Antiquities are great pickups, but I find they lack a certain depth and presence.

Here is Schuyler Dean himself sampling his P bass pickup:
 
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Replying to both J-Bass and soulstar...I have the pickup in my 2002 USA FSR 70s Precision with a set of Blue Steel nickel rounds, 46-102. I may be able to put a sample together this weekend.

As far as how the Schuyler Dean pickup sounds compared to the rest of the P pickups that I've sampled...the two others that really stand out in my mind as having *the sound* that I'm after were the Lollar standard wind and the Novak PB-V. The Bare Knuckle '58 was also quite good, though a bit scooped (by design) and maybe a tad too shrill for me. I'm a big fan of "open" or "hollow"-sounding P bass pickups that have a slight roll off in the highs, especially when installed on rounds-equipped basses. I love that hollow P-bass-with-a-pick sound, and the Dean accomplishes that in spades. I don't like overwound P bass pickups as they sound too compressed and lacking in detail to me -- not organic enough.

My flats P (2010 Highway One) currently has a Seymour Duncan Antiquity II in it and it's fine, but I think I might try a Schuyler Dean there too. The Antiquities are great pickups, but I find they lack a certain depth and presence.
Antiquity pickups in general are fine pickups, i think many have alnico 2 magnets (i think II refers to magnet type) but alnico 5 magnets in general have more power and firmer bottom end ive found swapping magnets in guitars.

With bass guitar string choice varies a lot more than guitar...for me its the whole chain from pickups to the amp and of course playing style.

Im not a fan of most overwound pickups in general...10% seems to be the limit but changing pots to larger values can compensate...overall it seems its how the pickup is built; wire, winding technique etc...it can be a rabbit hole no doubt!
 
Antiquity pickups in general are fine pickups, i think many have alnico 2 magnets (i think II refers to magnet type) but alnico 5 magnets in general have more power and firmer bottom end ive found swapping magnets in guitars.

With bass guitar string choice varies a lot more than guitar...for me its the whole chain from pickups to the amp and of course playing style.

Im not a fan of most overwound pickups in general...10% seems to be the limit but changing pots to larger values can compensate...overall it seems its how the pickup is built; wire, winding technique etc...it can be a rabbit hole no doubt!
I believe for the P bass, Antiquity I is a late 50s voicing and Antiquity II is an early 60s voicing, alnico 5 all.

My string choices, mostly to keep sanity and stop trying so many different strings (I've tried just about everything that this point), have settled on LaBella DTFs for flats and Dean Markley Blue Steels nickels for rounds -- becomes easier to quantify differences between pickups this way.
 
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Replying to both J-Bass and soulstar...I have the pickup in my 2002 USA FSR 70s Precision with a set of Blue Steel nickel rounds, 46-102. I may be able to put a sample together this weekend.

As far as how the Schuyler Dean pickup sounds compared to the rest of the P pickups that I've sampled...the two others that really stand out in my mind as having *the sound* that I'm after were the Lollar standard wind and the Novak PB-V. The Bare Knuckle '58 was also quite good, though a bit scooped (by design) and maybe a tad too shrill for me. I'm a big fan of "open" or "hollow"-sounding P bass pickups that have a slight roll off in the highs, especially when installed on rounds-equipped basses. I love that hollow P-bass-with-a-pick sound, and the Dean accomplishes that in spades. I don't like overwound P bass pickups as they sound too compressed and lacking in detail to me -- not organic enough.

My flats P (2010 Highway One) currently has a Seymour Duncan Antiquity II in it and it's fine, but I think I might try a Schuyler Dean there too. The Antiquities are great pickups, but I find they lack a certain depth and presence.

Here is Schuyler Dean himself sampling his P bass pickup:

Hey.
Cheers for the response. I’ve had a busy day so only just saw your comment.

I take it your fender far precision is ash and maple neck?

I’m learning that strings play a big part also. I fully am with you regarding going down the strings rabbit hole. I have rotosound swimgbass 66, d’addario 170xl nickels and dr strings. All round wound. To be honest, I don’t know what I like most . The bass came with dr strings which I liked.

Weirdly it seems lollar pickups are a bit limited over here in the uk. I would love a lollar pickup at 5%.

I listened to the YouTube video. It’s with a pick and I play fingerstyle (funk) so it’s hard to gauge.

what’s weird is I’ve heard the Lindy fralins in a couple different basses and some sound so compressed (not my thing) and in others very similar to the lollars.

either way a sample would great help the community here.
 
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Hey.
Cheers for the response. I’ve had a busy day so only just saw your comment.

I take it your fender far precision is ash and maple neck?

I’m learning that strings play a big part also. I fully am with you regarding going down the strings rabbit hole. I have rotosound swimgbass 66, d’addario 170xl nickels and dr strings. All round wound. To be honest, I don’t know what I like most . The bass came with dr strings which I liked.

Weirdly it seems lollar pickups are a bit limited over here in the uk. I would love a lollar pickup at 5%.

I listened to the YouTube video. It’s with a pick and I play fingerstyle (funk) so it’s hard to gauge.

what’s weird is I’ve heard the Lindy fralins in a couple different basses and some sound so compressed (not my thing) and in others very similar to the lollars.

either way a sample would great help the community here.
Pickup height is important, too close and it will be louder but more compressed.

I tend to play with a pick a lot or thumb so its 2 extremes but even then picks do vary in tone and of course location of where you pick (i vary location but play by the bridge on shorties a lot)
 
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One advantage to a P bass is you are dealing with only the one pickup usually....at the same time it is seemingly limited which of course led to the P/J setup.

For the folks that carry effects and EQs and vary picking style, there are many tones available....otoh, some plug straight in and use the same picking style so yeah, getting the right pickup is crucial...i wish i could try a variety of P pickups, its overwhelming the amount of choices these days!
 
One advantage to a P bass is you are dealing with only the one pickup usually....at the same time it is seemingly limited which of course led to the P/J setup.

For the folks that carry effects and EQs and vary picking style, there are many tones available....otoh, some plug straight in and use the same picking style so yeah, getting the right pickup is crucial...i wish i could try a variety of P pickups, its overwhelming the amount of choices these days!


I couldn’t agree more. It is very overwhelming.
 
One advantage to a P bass is you are dealing with only the one pickup usually....at the same time it is seemingly limited which of course led to the P/J setup.

For the folks that carry effects and EQs and vary picking style, there are many tones available....otoh, some plug straight in and use the same picking style so yeah, getting the right pickup is crucial...i wish i could try a variety of P pickups, its overwhelming the amount of choices these days!

The overwhelming number of option is right on. It use to be simpler a few years back.
Still, spend some time reading what people love and you will see the very best P pickups boils down to a few names:
(In alphabetical order): Aguilar, Arcane, Benson Customs, DiMarzio, Fender, Fralin, Kloppmann, Lollar, McNelly, Seymour Duncan...
And I might be forgetting a couple.
 
The overwhelming number of option is right on. It use to be simpler a few years back.
Still, spend some time reading what people love and you will see the very best P pickups boils down to a few names:
(In alphabetical order): Aguilar, Arcane, Benson Customs, DiMarzio, Fender, Fralin, Kloppmann, Lollar, McNelly, Seymour Duncan...
And I might be forgetting a couple.
Thats more than a few, then throw in different models from each brand!...i guess one studies all the info and go from there but its overwhelming.

P bass pickups are simple designs but slight variations make a difference...still Leo had it right for the most part but basses vary and amp rigs vary as well as playing style, so it all adds up.

I start with a Duncan SPB1, much like a Duncan 59 to a Gibson PAF, its 'in the ballpark' so to speak.
 
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The overwhelming number of option is right on. It use to be simpler a few years back.
Still, spend some time reading what people love and you will see the very best P pickups boils down to a few names:
(In alphabetical order): Aguilar, Arcane, Benson Customs, DiMarzio, Fender, Fralin, Kloppmann, Lollar, McNelly, Seymour Duncan...
And I might be forgetting a couple.

Klein is another favorite around here. Also, the EMG Geezer gets a lot of love. Oh, and Nordstrand. What about the David Allen P 1088? Oops, here we go again.... :D
 
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Thats more than a few, then throw in different models from each brand!...i guess one studies all the info and go from there but its overwhelming.

P bass pickups are simple designs but slight variations make a difference...still Leo had it right for the most part but basses vary and amp rigs vary as well as playing style, so it all adds up.

I start with a Duncan SPB1, much like a Duncan 59 to a Gibson PAF, its 'in the ballpark' so to speak.

You describe the way I felt going down this rabbit hole. It was overwhelming. I had this tone in my head that I was trying to chase. It just took some time honing in based on reading, (including this thread which was probably the most helpful single spot), and listening to videos, (including in this thread), then trying a few pickups. I finally settled on what I wanted which was a pickup I found through this thread. There are several TBers here who have done an outstanding job describing their impression and experience with various P pickups without pushing a single pickup as the best. I was able to find what matched the tone I was chasing and my search is done. For now. :cautious: