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Honest question..
Why is everyone so hung up on typos?
What thought is going to become so much more revelatory or clear if you can just go back 1:01 hours later and clarify that you meant "their" instead of "there."
It's the internet. And half of us are nuts anyway!

Respectfully, I'm guessing you are neurotypical and English is your first language, in which case you are privileged to have the opinion that typos are no big deal, and being misunderstood is harmless. For TalkBass members who have a personal history of struggling to communicate (for whatever reason), the stakes are higher.

I will give you a specific, personal example: My response to Bob Clayton above. I must have edited that a half-dozen times, because it's a fine line advocating for my needs without coming across as pushy, and I don't want the staff to be cross with me. I struggle with reading and expressing "tone" and there are many times I've gone back and edited a post after the fact, not because I made a typo or factual error, but because I wanted to change my tone, to be more friendly and understanding. This is a skill I am consciously trying to improve, and sometimes it takes me a few tries to get it right. If I knew there was a post I had accidentally insulted someone by using insensitive tone or a flat affect, but I couldn't go back and edit it, it would eat away at me to feel misunderstood and that the misunderstanding is permanently non-correctable.

Knowing I couldn't edit my posts makes me more afraid of being misunderstood, and less likely to speak up and participate in discussions. Maybe no big deal for you, but for me in the past, my deficit of communication skills has cost me grades, jobs, relationships, etc. which is why I resist a policy change that would make it harder for me to communicate in my preferred style.

The people who are going to be disproportionately inconvenienced by this rule change are: dyslexic, learning disabled, autism spectrum, vision/mobility impaired, assistive technology, English as a second language, etc. (And it could happen to any one of us, at any time: All of us are just a slip and fall away from having our arm in a sling and needing to type one-handed for a few weeks.)
 
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I'm not sure why this is a big deal. Supporting members are spending money to support the site; by definition they are not trolls, and not inclined to do things in a deliberate fashion to make things less clear. We want the ability to make things more clear, which would save the staff time and effort.

Would it surprise you to know that the majority of the people that were the reason this rule was made were supporting members? You also probably would be very surprised to see how many supporting members try to fight infractions with the fact they’re supporting members, that the rules should be more lenient since they support the site. So many people feel entitled to break the rules because they pay money. That’s not how it works.
 
Would it surprise you to know that the majority of the people that were the reason this rule was made were supporting members? You also probably would be very surprised to see how many supporting members try to fight infractions with the fact they’re supporting members, that the rules should be more lenient since they support the site. So many people feel entitled to break the rules because they pay money. That’s not how it works.
Yeah, actually, that does surprise me, but I shouldn't be surprised by anything these days.
 
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Would it surprise you to know that the majority of the people that were the reason this rule was made were supporting members? You also probably would be very surprised to see how many supporting members try to fight infractions with the fact they’re supporting members, that the rules should be more lenient since they support the site. So many people feel entitled to break the rules because they pay money. That’s not how it works.
Operative words: try to fight , and entitled.

Membership now to me only means I have an avatar, and I can sell here.

The importance of these items wane for me .

My protest will be vocal and monetary.
Thank you for years of entertainment.
 
I’m not surprised. All kinds of people ask to break rules, and many do so without asking as long as they can get away with it. Lots of people also feel they should be privileged.
But this is a case where we actually do pay for a privilege. So I (and quite a few others) don’t seem to mind asking for further consideration of this rule - maybe just an extension of the window. I don’t feel we’re in any way disrespecting the mods and all you do, only weighing in the way shareholders can do in any corporation.
 
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This has all been explained in other threads now.
This is not new, it's been in effect for a year or so.

One, reason, but not the only reason for this is:
People would start fights, then go back and edit or delete their posts.

Another reason would be:
people start a thread "with a question," and then "get their answer," and then delete the text in the original post, thus making the whole thread nonsensical for anyone in the future who would benefit from that info.

or
people ask a question, don't like the answers they get, and delete all the text from their first post, again, making the thread nonsense.

there are other additional reasons.

Y'all are well within your rights to express your opinions on this. I don't take any umbrage with that.
 
This has all been explained in other threads now.
This is not new, it's been in effect for a year or so.

This is new for supporting members. I really don't know why this continues to be said. I respectfully asked in another thread that this not be repeated, since it is false. I also respectfully suggested that there are valid reasons the staff may not have realized this, but after repeatedly mentioning this and having the same thing said in response, it begins to look deliberate.

Since I and others have pointed out that we had this privilege as supporting members until about a week or so ago, I can only begin to conclude that we're not being heard, or nobody cares that our experience has changed.
 
Actually it was recently fixed for supporting members. The rule was in place for all members long ago and it was only due to an error that supporting members did not have it applied to them. It was never a perk of supporting membership and was never advertised as such.
 
Actually it was recently fixed for supporting members. The rule was in place for all members long ago and it was only due to an error that supporting members did not have it applied to them. It was never a perk of supporting membership and was never advertised as such.
Thank you for clarifying. I think it must have come as a shock that many of us did value this enough to make it worth paying for, whether a deliberate perk or not. I'm sorry that it was changed, but I appreciate that you all have the right to do as you see fit. Enjoy the rest of your day!
 
Actually it was recently fixed for supporting members. The rule was in place for all members long ago and it was only due to an error that supporting members did not have it applied to them. It was never a perk of supporting membership and was never advertised as such.
Thanks for the nomenclature correction
It was an error intended to be implemented previously .
Since we were not affected till now, we did not react till now.
 
Idk, I still think this is one of the best places online. I support a number of things where I don’t necessarily “get something” for my support. I support them because I believe in their mission or whatever. If you want to vote with your wallet and presence, that is your prerogative. People come and go all the time.
 
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As I've already mentioned in the other thread(a search reveals that it has since been closed) I can totally appreciate why staff don't want the edit button, but there seems to be some demand for the edit button, so maybe this could be a perk (*with caveats!) for supporting members.

If it functions as an incentive to encourage more supporting members then surely that's a good thing for the wellbeing of the site?

* I never learnt to program in php or similar languages so I don't know exactly how difficult it would be to implement any of these changes, of which the technical frontend server considerations I'm sure will be a main factor. Some random ideas for supporting member's ability to edit posts:
1) having an "edit history" or "edit log" button for each post where the history of edits can be inspected by other members, if they choose. I imagine this may take up too much storage when you consider each and every post.
2) an extended period for 24 hours editing.
3) the ability to delete should be disallowed whatever because it disrupts the flow. A request to delete should be made to a member of staff.
4) allow the attaching of a note to the post after the edit window has passed to let other members know of an edit (although the very fact that the original even exists could be a problem for some people)
 
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Actually it was recently fixed for supporting members. The rule was in place for all members long ago and it was only due to an error that supporting members did not have it applied to them. It was never a perk of supporting membership and was never advertised as such.

Ah: now I understand, and I did not know this. Thanks.
 
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As participants of this site, we have all created a lot of content. Some of it interesting and valuable, and some of it not so much. But in any case, the user created content is itself the value of the site. All of the content I have created has been done so under the condition where I was free to revise and delete it at any time. Now the goalposts have moved and a new policy has been applied retroactively to the content I created previously. Regardless of any go forward action I may decide, I am not ok with changing the terms and conditions regarding prior content.
 
As participants of this site, we have all created a lot of content. Some of it interesting and valuable, and some of it not so much. But in any case, the user created content is itself the value of the site. All of the content I have created has been done so under the condition where I was free to revise and delete it at any time. Now the goalposts have moved and a new policy has been applied retroactively to the content I created previously. Regardless of any go forward action I may decide, I am not ok with changing the terms and conditions regarding prior content.
What were the terms regarding text content that you contribute previously?
 
I support the policy and actually think it is generous. If you say something out loud to someone, or send them a letter, or a text message, or an email, you can't just un-say it afterwards. I don't see why posting on TB should be any different. Correct your errors before you post, not after!
I agree. I mean, if you send a private message to someone, you only have like 5 minutes or something to edit it. If I had an error I just sent another message correcting it. I just don’t think it’s worth getting worked up over. I usually catch my mistakes when I post it. They stick out like a sore thumb. I go back and fix it. 10 minutes would be all I need. With everything going on right now, editing my TB posts is not at the top of my worry list.
 
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I agree. I mean, if you send a private message to someone, you only have like 5 minutes or something to edit it. If I had an error I just sent another message correcting it. I just don’t think it’s worth getting worked up over. I usually catch my mistakes when I post it. They stick out like a sore thumb. I go back and fix it. 10 minutes would be all I need. With everything going on right now, editing my TB posts is not at the top of my worry list.
It's not about errors. It's about clarity. Sometimes you don't realize something is unclear until you see that someone else has taken it 180 degrees out of context and run away with their misunderstanding of it. I think this happens all the time on here. It's happening right now, actually, as I've said this earlier and y'all still are insisting it's about errors.

I personally don't care. It's not a hill I want to die on here. My participation here was never about whether I was able to edit my posts or not. My support was. My willingness to participate more proactively was. But you are right, there are far more important things to concern myself with than TalkBass.
 
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