Unknown, Unlined, Unmarked Fretless Bass!

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by HexEnductionInc, Dec 31, 2014.

  1. I got this bass in a trade the other day.

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    It was a bit of a mess, but it cleaned up really well. It's a beautiful one-piece body, possibly ash, with an unlined fretless neck with truss rod adjustment at the heel, and what I believe is an ebony board. There is no maker's mark anywhere on it...the only thing I can identify are the Carvin pickups, which I suppose could mean it's a Carvin custom job. I can't find a similar one, especially with the Fender-style headstock. Anyone have any idea what this may be?
  2. vmabus


    Nov 1, 2013
    Parts bass?
    Anyway, it's gorgeous! How's it sound?
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  3. Oh man, it sounds fantastic. It's my first fretless, and it's got a tone like an amplified upright. It feels like it's something special, definitely a keeper. Just gotta adapt to no fret lines, but that's a problem I'm more than happy to solve.

    The guy I bought it from mentioned the name Jaco Pastorius in relation to this bass, but I'm dubious as to the claim. Still, if it is indeed a parts bass, whoever put it together knew what they were doing.
  4. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Nothing wrong with that, even if you never do figure out where it came from. Looks nice.
  5. lowphatbass

    lowphatbass **** Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    west coast
    There may be a mark in the neck pocket and/or theback of the heal of the neck.
  6. Bob-I


    Sep 12, 2014

    When I bought this Doubleneck at an estate sale for $300 it was also unmarked. Once I pulled the necks off I found Warmoth on every part.

  7. There was some writing on the neck pocket and on the heel...I didn't have the foresight to photograph it or write it down. I'll have to take the neck off again. Results forthcoming...meanwhile, Happy New Year! 2015, the year of the BASS.
  8. cnltb


    May 28, 2005
    Looks alright.
    sounds alright?
    If so; all good.:)
  9. Bassman822


    Sep 1, 2007
    Bessemer, AL
    I bought an unmarked fretless 26 years ago. Upon disassembly, I found Schecter on the neck and body.
  10. rolandm

    rolandm In search of the lowest note.

    Aug 8, 2010
    Peoria, IL
    Nice score. If it's a keeper, who cares about names, right? Congrats on the score, and yes, that's one gorgeous bit of grain there! Welcome to fretless land.
  11. wmhill

    wmhill Inactive

    Aug 20, 2012
    upstate NY
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    put your name on it!
  12. Stick_Player

    Stick_Player Inactive

    Nov 13, 2009
    Somewhere on the Alaska Panhandle (Juneau)
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    He probably had heard a story or two about Jaco playing a fretless. ALL fretless bass chatter must include: "Jaco Pastorius".
  13. Lo-E


    Dec 19, 2009
    Brooklyn, NY
    Looks like a parts bass, for sure. Ain't nuthin' wrong with that! Enjoy!
  14. OK, got the neck off today and this is what I found:
    Terrible photo, I know...for those with poor vision, it says "N 105 EN-FL"...
    ...and this one reads "387".

    Does this shed anymore light on the mystery?

    You guys are right though, it really doesn't matter who made this thing. Famous custom shop or Joe Q. Public garage woodshop, it looks like a dream and plays/sounds even better. I honestly can't put it down. What was that quote about Jaco considering frets "speedbumps"? I see what he meant!
  15. Gilmourisgod


    Jun 23, 2014
    Cape Cod MA
    With a rock solid Jaco connection like that, should go for $50,000 on Ebay! Unfortunately, there is another guy who beat you to it, though I think he's down to $20k for a parts bass. Nice looking bass, is that an ash body?
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  16. Ha! Isn't hearsay admissable in a court of law? Or at least in the court of public opinion? Uh, a tennis court maybe? OK, I guess it'll have to start at $19,998, undercut the competition. Bet I could double that if I part it out...

    But seriously, it looks to be ash, one nice solid piece, weighs in right around 11 pounds.
  17. The 387th instrument made by a custom builder at North 105th AVE in some "EN" place in Florida?
  18. So would that mean the body is swamp ash? Alligator maple neck?

    How does "Born on the Bayou" sound on a fretless?
  19. SteveV74

    SteveV74 Inactive

    Jul 24, 2012
    The mystery factor makes it cooler.
  20. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Hmmm, now that'd be interesting to find out! Betcha you could cover the guitar part pretty well though.