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Unorthodox rigs?

#21
Guess I gotta toss mine in here: all sold off by now but an impressive-looking tower behind me on stage when I had it...

I had an Acoustic 360 and was also playing g****r in a wedding band when I noticeded the 360's bottom had an output jack labeled "high out" or some such. I took that to mean there was a crossover of some sort, so I hooked it to my GK 212 guitar amp. Now THERE was a cool rig -- I could switch the GK to full raunch overdrive (it was one of the solid state ones with a cascading overdrive -- one drive knob feeding the next) and still have the whole Acoustic 360 clean. THAT was a ton of fun, almost literally.

But at a mere (!) 200 watts, the 360's time was limited. Heaven knows where it is now...
 
#22
Corwin81 said:
Oops, guess Amy doesn't have the rig posted on the site, but she's using 3 way rig consisting of a SWR SM-900 through an Henry the 8X8 for the main bass, then a Mesa Dual Rectifier halfstack for the "guitar" sound, and a SWR Redhead combo for the effects
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Well thanks, I knew it was 3-way but didnt have a clue what was in it or where it was.

Jack
 
#23
eli said:
Guess I gotta toss mine in here: all sold off by now but an impressive-looking tower behind me on stage when I had it...

I had an Acoustic 360 and was also playing g****r in a wedding band when I noticeded the 360's bottom had an output jack labeled "high out" or some such. I took that to mean there was a crossover of some sort, so I hooked it to my GK 212 guitar amp. Now THERE was a cool rig -- I could switch the GK to full raunch overdrive (it was one of the solid state ones with a cascading overdrive -- one drive knob feeding the next) and still have the whole Acoustic 360 clean. THAT was a ton of fun, almost literally.

But at a mere (!) 200 watts, the 360's time was limited. Heaven knows where it is now...
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Eli, was that ALL the 360's put out? Damn, that was some efficient 200 watts. These things would make your pants leg flutter at about 10 paces. I have an Acoustic 220 from the same era. It can get loud to but I've never gotten the right drivers under it to really tell.
 
#25
Hambone said:
Eli, was that ALL the 360's put out? Damn, that was some efficient 200 watts. These things would make your pants leg flutter at about 10 paces. I have an Acoustic 220 from the same era. It can get loud to but I've never gotten the right drivers under it to really tell.
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Surprised me too when I read it on the back of the cab, but it was certainly huge for its era. I realized its limitations when I brought it to an outdoor gig set up on a flatbed trailer and was underwhelmed by its capabilities. It was certainly present, but not really LOUD. 'Course, I was only standing 15 feet away (the length of my cord)... maybe it was louder further back. And I don't ever recall it wanting to break up, even cranked, so the headroom was certainly designed in.
 
#27
when using guitar cabs, are you ever at risk blowing them? can guitar cab speakers handle the lows at higher volumes?

what kind of tone would say...a marshall 4x12 (with a clean signal going to it) produce with an ampeg/swr 15 below it?
 
#31
I'm using a SansAmp BDDI, Alembic F-2B, and Alembic SF-2 in a dual-channel config. The signal from the bass gets split: one half goes to one side of each Alembic, with the SF-2 setup full direct + adjustable gain HP at around 300Hz, the F-2B channel EQ'd fairly bassy. So that side ("clean") has a one-knob control that is an interesting midrange control bassically.

The other side is BDDI, to SF-2 (full direct plus full LP, frequency adjustable), to F-2B (set to "flat" more or less). The extra gain from having the direct+full LP (10dB boost) gets a little more drive from the F-2B channel. Adjusting the cutoff frequency of the SF-2 channel adjusts the high-mid tone, affecting things much like a speaker cab would.

I keep the overall channel mix the same, and just run a mono out to either the board or the power amp.
 
#32
cods said:
when using guitar cabs, are you ever at risk blowing them? can guitar cab speakers handle the lows at higher volumes?
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and...

let's say you have 2 cabs, one for highs, and one for lows, and you plug them both into a head, how does your head know to send the higher end frequencies to one cab, and the lower ones to the other?
 
#33
cods said:
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and...

let's say you have 2 cabs, one for highs, and one for lows, and you plug them both into a head, how does your head know to send the higher end frequencies to one cab, and the lower ones to the other?
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1. Probably not -- a full-range bass signal, clean, into a guitar speaker cab is more likely to damage the speakers than with a bass cab

2. It doesn't :) You can use something called a <b>crossover</b> to do that (also called "bi-amping") -- it goes before the power amp, but then you need at least two channels of amplification. I'm sure this is all in the FAQs around here somewhere.
 

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