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Unusual Rock Trivia?

Jack Bruce was a member of Manfred Mann for a short time in 1965 - 1966 playing bass. He was on this instrumental EP they did doing jazzy instrumental covers of rock songs. He also played on their hit song "Pretty Flamingo".











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Before Peter Cetera joined The Big Thing, who became Chicago Transit Authority and then Chicago, he was in Kal David and the Exceptions, which shortened their name to The Exceptions and then The Exception. They released several singles and an EP, Rock 'N' Roll Mass in the Chicago area. Cetera left when the other members expressed a desire to perform more psychedelic material. That sure was a great move on his part.















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Before Kenny Loggins had a massive hit with the song "Danger Zone" from the Top Gun movie soundtrack, it was offered to several other acts who all turned it down for various reasons.

Toto were originally intended to perform the track "Danger Zone" but legal conflicts between the film's producers and the band's lawyers prevented this.

Bryan Adams was approached to perform "Danger Zone"; but, he refused any involvement, feeling that the film glorified war and he did not want any of his work linked to it.

REO Speedwagon were also approached to perform "Danger Zone," but the group declined due to not being allowed to contribute any of their own compositions to the soundtrack.

Corey Hart was also approached to perform "Danger Zone," but he declined, preferring to write and perform his own compositions.

Eventually, the film producers agreed that "Danger Zone" would be recorded and performed by Kenny Loggins.

Also, The Motels were originally considered for "Take My Breath Away." A demo version exists on their compilation, Anthologyland.

 
In between all the stuff Cher has done over the years, she was actually in a rock band called Black Rose that released one album in 1980. This band featured Cher and her then boyfriend guitarist/vocalist Les Dudek. The other band members were Gary Ferguson, Michael Finnigan, Warren Ham (Bloodrock, A.D., Kansas, Toto, Ringo Starr's All Starr Band, & More), Rocket Ritchotte and Trey Thompson. Some studio musicians who played on the album included Toto members David Paich and Steve Porcaro.

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Before becoming the "Fifth Beatle" and touring and recording with a who's who list of acts from the 60s until his death and his solo career, Billy Preston released a few albums as a teenager and also backed up vocal group The Olympics for live performances. He even appeared with them live on TV playing on their cover of the Lemme B. Good song "Good Lovin'". The Olympics rendition of the song inspired The Young Rascals cover which became a #1 U.S. hit. Later on, his song "You Are So Beautiful", that he co-wrote with Bruce Fisher, was written about Billy's mother and was recorded for Preston's 1974 album The Kids & Me. It was covered by Joe Cocker for a big hit.





 
Before becoming the "Fifth Beatle" and touring and recording with a who's who list of acts from the 60s until his death and his solo career, Billy Preston released a few albums as a teenager and also backed up vocal group The Olympics for live performances. He even appeared with them live on TV playing on their cover of the Lemme B. Good song "Good Lovin'". The Olympics rendition of the song inspired The Young Rascals cover which became a #1 U.S. hit. Later on, his song "You Are So Beautiful", that he co-wrote with Bruce Fisher, was written about Billy's mother and was recorded for Preston's 1974 album The Kids & Me. It was covered by Joe Cocker for a big hit.







Here's Billy Preston, age 10 or 11, playing with Nat King Cole on his TV show. He had "it" from a young age.

 
The group America had a penchant for naming many (not all) of their album titles starting with the letter "H" for some reason. Some bootleg America albums even start with the letter "H".

Studio Albums

1972 - Homecoming
1973 - Hat Trick
1974 - Holiday
1975 - Hearts
1976 - Hideaway
1977 - Harbor
1994 - Hourglass
1998 - Human Nature
2007 - Here & Now
2017 - Heritage: Home Recordings/Demos 1970-1973

Compilation Albums

1975 - History: America's Greatest Hits
2000 - Highway
2004 - A Horse With No Name & Other Hits

Live Albums

1995 - Horse With No Name

Holiday Albums

2002 - Holiday Harmony

Bootleg Albums

1997 - Heard
1998 - Happenstance
1998 - Honor Bound
 
According to composer Robert Lamm, the Chicago song "25 or 6 to 4" is about trying to write a song in the middle of the night. The song's title is the time at which the song is set: 25 or 26 minutes before 4 AM.

Waiting for the break of day
Searching for something to say
Dancing lights against the sky
Giving up I close my eyes
Sitting cross-legged on the floor
25 or 6 to 4

Staring blindly into space
Getting up to splash my face
Wanting just to stay awake
Wondering how much I can take
Should have tried to do some more
25 or 6 to 4

Feeling like I ought to sleep
Spinning room is sinking deep
Searching for something to say
Waiting for the break of day
25 or 6 to 4
25 or 6 to 4

 
According to composer Robert Lamm, the Chicago song "25 or 6 to 4" is about trying to write a song in the middle of the night. The song's title is the time at which the song is set: 25 or 26 minutes before 4 AM.

Waiting for the break of day
Searching for something to say
Dancing lights against the sky
Giving up I close my eyes
Sitting cross-legged on the floor
25 or 6 to 4

Staring blindly into space
Getting up to splash my face
Wanting just to stay awake
Wondering how much I can take
Should have tried to do some more
25 or 6 to 4

Feeling like I ought to sleep
Spinning room is sinking deep
Searching for something to say
Waiting for the break of day
25 or 6 to 4
25 or 6 to 4



I remember finding out about that when I was learning the lyrics to cover it years back. IIRC, it was at that time in the morning and he'd been trying to come up with lyrics all night but had nothing. I wonder if it true or myth. Great tune and fun to play IMO. Very proto punk in the feel and power chord rhythm, albeit a slower tempo.

A follow up bit of trivia: Green Day's song Brain Stew from the Insomniac album follows the same chord progression and a similar theme.
 
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According to composer Robert Lamm, the Chicago song "25 or 6 to 4" is about trying to write a song in the middle of the night. The song's title is the time at which the song is set: 25 or 26 minutes before 4 AM.

Waiting for the break of day
Searching for something to say
Dancing lights against the sky
Giving up I close my eyes
Sitting cross-legged on the floor
25 or 6 to 4

Staring blindly into space
Getting up to splash my face
Wanting just to stay awake
Wondering how much I can take
Should have tried to do some more
25 or 6 to 4

Feeling like I ought to sleep
Spinning room is sinking deep
Searching for something to say
Waiting for the break of day
25 or 6 to 4
25 or 6 to 4


Good song that
 
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One of John Winston Lennon's favorite Beatles songs happens to be Strawberry Fields forever. A good friend, not understanding what the song was all about, asked him what it all meant.

John simply said, "Well. Just listen to the words, Ray."


Let me take you down
'Cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hung about
Strawberry Fields forever

Living is easy with eyes closed
Misunderstanding all you see
It's getting hard to be someone
But it all works out
It doesn't matter much to me

Let me take you down
'Cause I'm going to
Strawberry Fields
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hung about
Strawberry Fields forever

No one I think is in my tree
I mean it must be high or low
That is you know you can't tune it
But it's all right
That is I think it's not too bad

Let me take you down
'Cause I'm going to
Strawberry Fields
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hung about
Strawberry Fields forever

Always know sometimes it's me
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a "Yes"
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree

Let me take you down
'Cause I'm going to
Strawberry Fields
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hung about
Strawberry Fields forever …



He'd been taking a lot of LSD. It took forever to write :wacky: George Martin played his traditional role, pulling all the music together. Strawberry Fields was a Salvation Army home for orphaned children nearby where the young Lennon grew up. They had an annual fete there and the whole thing was a serious buzz for the boy, who found the garden there the perfect place for a good romp. So, in his mind, Strawberry Fields was about that childhood.


His mum gave him away to his aunt — who was apparently obsessed with him — which troubled the kid, understandably. He was very middle-class, not a working class hero at all. He was very easily led. … You'll grab a hefty swag of other goodly goss from that world, here — Invalid Link Removed — if it pleases you :)
Thirty-eight years after Lennon’s murder, [Ray] has written a biography of this “clever, witty, angry, funny, sharp-tongued, far-sighted, impetuous, talented, guilt-laden, preaching, sardonic, exaggerating, gullible, aggressive, unfaithful, obsessive, self-absorbed, outspoken, jealous, sometimes cruel but often generous man” …
 
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