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Unusual Rock Trivia?

Rabid Who fans(such as myself)will know this, but in 1967 Pete and company recorded two Rolling Stones covers as a single(very much under the radar in the US). In the wake of the Stones' drug busts, it was a show of solidarity and a fund raising effort(the Stones hadn't quite reached the 'rollin' in dough/buy our way out of any scrape' status)...


As John Entwistle was away on his honeymoon, Pete handled the bass parts.
 
And "Something" was about Pattie as well.

Jenny Boyd was also married to Mick Fleetwood at one time. Mick also had an affair with Stevie Nicks.

The bass player on the beginning of Carly Simon's "You're So Vain" is Klaus Voorman, bassist with Manfred Mann. Klaus also used to see the early Beatles play in Hamburg. His girlfriend at the time, Astrid Kirchherr, ended up being engaged to Stu Sutcliffe, the original bassist for the Beatles (who died of a brain hemorrhage in 1961). Klaus also designed the cover of the Beatles' "Revolver" album and played bass on many solo Beatles albums.

Paul McCartney owns the cufflinks Buddy Holly was wearing when he died in a plane crash. Buddy bumped his part-time rhythm guitarist off the flight so he could get to the next gig ahead of the rest of the band. That guitarist was Waylon Jennings.

Wow! Good stuff!
 
Speaking of...whom, and in light of my post #134 above, can I assume you know, without looking it up, who the "Who Orchestra" credited with playing on "Waltz for a Pig" - a tender letter to Shel Talmy that was the B-side to "Substitute" in US pressings - really were? ;)
Yeah, wow, I had forgotten about that, Baker, Bruce, Heckstall-Smith. The whole Who/Talmy/"Substitute" pissing contest is a saga unto itself. How about a Who-related back-up session, Pete, Keith, and The Faces' Ronnie Lane behind Incredible String Band's Mike Heron...

In the same vein, not only did Donovan have Jimmy Page(supposedly)do screaming psychedelic lead guitar on "Hurdy Gurdy Man'...

but also Page's partner/rival Jeff Beck with his entire band(Wood, Hopkins, Newman), a very young Suzi Quatro joining Rod Stewart on backing vocals, backing on this...

An interesting side note to the "Beck's Bolero" story, at one point Entwistle and Moon were dissatisfied with being in The Who; drinking in a pub with Hopkins, Page, maybe even Beck, they started to kick around the idea of putting together a proto-supergroup, Page being really hot on luring The Small Faces' frontman, Steve Marriott, away for such a band. It was Moon, or maybe Entwistle, who mumbled something about it 'going over like a lead balloon', duly noted by Page. Even then, Page had a thing for high-range raspy blues-soaked vocalists, and at that time Marriott was one of the best. Word got back to Don Arden, SF's thug manager(and Sharon Osbourne's father, fruit doesn't fall far and all that). Page was asked how he'd like to try to play guitar with broken fingers(or some such story), so the one Beck session was as far as that idea got. Page approached a similar vocalist, Terry Reid, no slouch himself, he passed, but pointed Page in the direction of Robert Plant, the rest is history. If you're not familiar with Reid, here's an A/B comparison with Marriott(in his later, post-Humble Pie years)...

and Terry Reid's version from 1969...

but what I'm really leading up to is that Marriott must have been on Page's radar for quite a while; check out The Small Face's reading of a Muddy Waters tune that you just might have heard before...
 
Yeah, wow, I had forgotten about that, Baker, Bruce, Heckstall-Smith. The whole Who/Talmy/"Substitute" pissing contest is a saga unto itself. How about a Who-related back-up session, Pete, Keith, and The Faces' Ronnie Lane behind Incredible String Band's Mike Heron...

In the same vein, not only did Donovan have Jimmy Page(supposedly)do screaming psychedelic lead guitar on "Hurdy Gurdy Man'...

but also Page's partner/rival Jeff Beck with his entire band(Wood, Hopkins, Newman), a very young Suzi Quatro joining Rod Stewart on backing vocals, backing on this...

An interesting side note to the "Beck's Bolero" story, at one point Entwistle and Moon were dissatisfied with being in The Who; drinking in a pub with Hopkins, Page, maybe even Beck, they started to kick around the idea of putting together a proto-supergroup, Page being really hot on luring The Small Faces' frontman, Steve Marriott, away for such a band. It was Moon, or maybe Entwistle, who mumbled something about it 'going over like a lead balloon', duly noted by Page. Even then, Page had a thing for high-range raspy blues-soaked vocalists, and at that time Marriott was one of the best. Word got back to Don Arden, SF's thug manager(and Sharon Osbourne's father, fruit doesn't fall far and all that). Page was asked how he'd like to try to play guitar with broken fingers(or some such story), so the one Beck session was as far as that idea got. Page approached a similar vocalist, Terry Reid, no slouch himself, he passed, but pointed Page in the direction of Robert Plant, the rest is history. If you're not familiar with Reid, here's an A/B comparison with Marriott(in his later, post-Humble Pie years)...

and Terry Reid's version from 1969...

but what I'm really leading up to is that Marriott must have been on Page's radar for quite a while; check out The Small Face's reading of a Muddy Waters tune that you just might have heard before...

So... Had the fates fallen a bit differently, we could have had Small Faces/Humble Pie Steve Marriott leading the Zeppelin? Man, that would have been a great ride!
 
So... Had the fates fallen a bit differently, we could have had Small Faces/Humble Pie Steve Marriott leading the Zeppelin? Man, that would have been a great ride!
Yeah, but it would not have lasted too long, with both Marriott and Page being control freaks. The Pie was just different enough from Zep to see/hear that. And Terry Reid has no regrets, he worked with David Lindley, he's written songs with Graham Nash, had his tunes covered by Marianne Faithfull, Cheap Trick, and others, and so on. He lives in the Palm Springs area, I've seen him play in a tiny joint down there. I think it all worked out the way it should have.
 
Not sure if true, but as I understand it, Paul McCartney owns the rights to the University of Wisconsin and University of Notre Dame's fight songs.

I heard that about the Wisconsin tune, also. (My high school stole that tune and changed the lyrics for our fight song. I'm sure that's NEVER been done before!)
 
Aside from the two of them working together on various(usually Mickie Most produced)sessions for the likes of Herman's Hermits and Donovan, the real birth of Led Zeppelin occurred in 1966 with these two singles...
The way ahead of it's time "Happenings Ten Years Time Ago" by the Yardbirds

Recorded during the brief spell when both Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were on twin lead guitars, John Paul Jones was on bass(I believe Chris Dreja was still handling rhythm guitar at this point)

Then there was Beck's first solo effort, an all-star affair actually recorded while he was still in the Yardbirds, way ahead of the JBG with Rod Stewart, featuring Page on acoustic, JPJ on bass, the ubiquitous Nicky Hopkins on piano, and Keith Moon on drums(you can hear him screaming right before the instrumental bridge at 1:32)...

This sent me to the stacks to find my copy of the Truth album. The CD not the LP. It has some very entertaining liner notes about the tunes on the record and the times for Jeff and the boys. Woody was the bass player in the band but Beck's Bolero had JPJ.
 
Neil Young owned the buffalo used in the movie Dances With Wolves.

Probably well known round here, but i like the fact that the hit song Louie Louie led to the founding on Sunn amps, as the Kingsmen needed bigger gear to play larger and larger venues.
Norm Sundholm of the Kingsmen sought out his brother Conrad (a hifi enthusiast) to help him. Conrad took what he figured out helping his bro and founded Sunn.

Also - John sebastian (Lovin Spoonful) played harmonica on the Doors' Roadhouse Blues. It was never publicized because Sebastian's folky rep and the Doors' wild child rep made producers think the news could hurt both acts with their fans. Sebastian's harp is always great.
 
Norm Sundholm of the Kingsmen sought out his brother Conrad (a hifi enthusiast) to help him. Conrad took what he figured out helping his bro and founded Sunn.

Also - John sebastian (Lovin Spoonful) played harmonica on the Doors' Roadhouse Blues. It was never publicized because Sebastian's folky rep and the Doors' wild child rep made producers think the news could hurt both acts with their fans. Sebastian's harp is always great.

And the late, great Lonnie Mack played bass on several tracks of that album, including several takes of "Roadhouse", but never figured out (or cared) which ones were used. He said he couldn't tell by listening to them later. Go figure.
 
... McLaughlin rounded up the combo until Baker had him fired for being, in Ginger's words, "a whiner and a miserable moaner"....
And that should come from the most whiner and miserable moaner himself? Smack addict already in those days. Yes, just throw stones in the glass houses. Little wonder, few of his musicians - including Eric - could stand any length of time in his company, regardless of how good he was on drums.
 
Beirut? I know it was in Lebanon.
Beirut, Lebanon is da place. Born accompanied by some major protests outside, which later on turned into the civil war. Little wonder where Serj got his angriness from... ;)however both of them families managed to flee/relocate before anything serious happened, but they got wind of something evil in the works so they split. It should be said, that the civil war didn't start seriously until the beginning of the 70s, but there were severe riots cooking underneath in the 60s. You know, calm on the surface, unruly below, as such things always starts.

I thought Keeanu was from Hawaiian/Canadian descent though, only. All the way through. I knew about Serjs Armenian origins, but still finds it peculiar that Beirut Lebanon was his birthplace.
 
Yeah, wow, I had forgotten about that, Baker, Bruce, Heckstall-Smith.
Actually replace "Bruce" with "Bond": I'm pretty sure Jack had been sacked and re-sacked at knifepoint by that time, and those bass notes are just Graham's feet. The song was written by Baker, who reportedly used the royalties to buy a car. The bass-guitar-less Graham Bond Organisation line-up was here and occasionally augmented with Nigerian trumpeter Mike Falana, who'd played with the three others and Bruce in the John Burch Octet before their joining Korner (yes, in my first post on the thread, quod whoever may have missed it videat, I'd forgot to mention Dick was also a member of Blues, Inc.).

Speaking of Nigeria and Ginger Baker, he moved there for six years, opened a recording studio and collaborated with Fela Kuti, and when Paul McCartney flew there to record Band on the Run (an interesting adventure unto itself, I'm told) one of the tracks was laid down at Baker's.

Speaking of Macca and Wings, not far from sir Paul's Scottish retreat in the Kintyre peninsula lies the tiny and private Sanda Island, which was owned by Jack Bruce for some time!

À propos of Jack, I'd also forgot to add he (on bass but especially vocals) and John McLaughlin also played together in Carla Bley's jazz opera Escalator Over the Hill, itself another Who's Who of musicians of disparate provenances: the less-jazzy side included Paul Jones, another Korner alumnus but most of all of Manfred Mann fame (and thus another former bandmate of Bruce, who'd played and sang background vocals on "Pretty Flamingo" before being replaced by Klaus Voormann, already mentioned upthread), a young Linda Ronstadt, and Mothers of Invention keyboard player Don Preston.
(Speaking of Zappa, little need to mention Bruce playing on "Apostrophe’" with Jim Gordon here I guess?)

Speaking of Carla Bley, what does a free jazz pianist have in common with former (John Mayall and) Stones' guitarist Mick Taylor and the Knack drummer Bruce Gary? Why, they all played in the Jack Bruce Band in the mid-Seventies!
A different and earlier band, Jack Bruce & Friends, featured Larry Coryell and Mitch Mitchell, famously drummer for Jimi Hendrix, and before that an employee of Georgie Fame's (he also may or may not have been the drummer Keith Moon claimed to be better than when he auditioned for the Who!), as were in different times (in the former's case obviously) Jon Hiseman and John McLaughlin as mentioned.

Speaking of John, it was through Graham Bond, a sort of Aleister Crowley fanatic, that McLaughlin became interested in the study of the occult, Eastern religion and philosophy - at the time he joined the London Theosophical Society with Big Jim Sullivan (who in turn later on took up the sitar).

Now, the above is mostly (private islands and Nigerian trips excepted maybe) Kevin Bacon stuff and only interesting for fans of the scene; it's there mainly to reiterate that I could seriously go on for days on end with this stuff!

(...) Steve Marriott (...)
I'm a fan myself! :)

Mick Jagger got his start as the lead singer for the Rolling Stones.

Sting not only sings, but he also plays bass.
Mick and the Stones were the most prominent of Alexis Korner's protégés; as for Sting, some time after realising I could hear some Jack Bruce in Sumner's compositions (in the way both would spice up otherwise straight pop chord progressions with unespected little twists), I came into two bits of info that confirmed me in my guess: in an interview I read Sting put Jack's first published solo album, Songs for a Tailor, in his 10 desert island albums, and browsing through his autobiography I found out he saw Bruce perform with the Graham Bond Organisation in Newcastle in his early teens/ OH MY GOSH SOMEONE PUT ME DOWN ALREADY.


Rocks come in three varieties: igneous, sedimentary and metamorphic. :smug:
And sigged (but allow me a tiny edit), thanks!
 
Was it Jim Gordon or Jim Keltner who was declared insane and are still in an asylum? During a schizophrenic spell, or fit, he killed his mother or something...?
Kind of unusual Rock Trivia too, albeit a bit creepy and scary...I always mix those two up, because they basically played with the same kind of people, and same kind of music. Well established and hired session drummers.
 
[QUOTE="fhm555, post: 19818935, member: 186372]Neal Schon was also a teenager at Woodstock when he played with Santana.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, Neal Schon was not in the Woodstock lineup of Santana.


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