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Double Bass Upgrading the Power Amp section of an EA Doubler

I'm looking for some more power for my EA Doubler(mark 1), its currently 350watt at 8 ohm, 550 watt at 4ohm.

I've read that some have installed Ice power modules. I'm wondering who has tried this, what module they tried, and how well it's worked. I'd like to get at least 700 watts out of the amp, ability to go down to 2 ohm would be a bonus.
 
I'm looking for some more power for my EA Doubler(mark 1), its currently 350watt at 8 ohm, 550 watt at 4ohm.

I've read that some have installed Ice power modules. I'm wondering who has tried this, what module they tried, and how well it's worked. I'd like to get at least 700 watts out of the amp, ability to go down to 2 ohm would be a bonus.

So far EA has only increased the power to 625 watts at 4. That would be a good starting point, for whatever modifications were to be done. At one point, Mike Arnopol mentioned he had modified his, of course, if you undertook this project, EA would likeley not be inclined to do any repairs, if the need arose. Just an observation.
 
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Sorry that I missed responding.
1. The original Doubler had a power rating of 250 into 8 and 450 into 4.
2. EA decided to not push the Ice module as hard as other manufacturers ( a good thing). So--other manufacturer's amps using the same module go a bit louder, but with higher distortion.

I also felt that the original didn't have enough "oomph" and was not a good match for electric. You see, most of the high-end (sonically) speakers out ther (mine included) are not as efficient as cheapo cabs. So--contemporary cabs need more juice. As a speaker designer you pick your compromises---if you want great low end performance and high xmax (excursion) the compromise is a less efficient cab.Most of the commercially available speakers for electric bass don't have good extension nor excursion, A cab with 3db higher SPL will require half of the wattage. Because watts are relatively cheap these days, most higher end speaker designers take advantage of this.

I had an ICE 250axl2 module laying around. 500 into 8 and around 800 into 4. Same one as used in the GK's, Puma 900, Demeters, and others. I had to drill different holes to mount it but all of the connectors are the same. Took less than an hour.Tried it against the Demeter Lunchbox amp.( I love that amp) The Demeter went louder but was more distorted as it surpassed the Doubler with the new board. I don't feel that the 250axl2 is the most hifi of the Ice modules but it slams like crazy.

It now sounds great with both upright and electric. I haven't played an electric gig that it didn't cut it.

I'm really glad that they upped the wattage. Wonder which module they're using?
 
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I'd be interested in doing this, too. I have an iAMP Micro spec'd for 350 watts @ 8ohm and 550 watts @ 4ohms. I suspect the power module is the same as the Doubler? As for the ICE 250axl2 module, can those be purchased by plain old ordinary consumers like me? Do you need more than a soldering iron to make the mod?

I used to have a Puma 900 and it truly had slam at 8 ohms. Had a few ICE1000 amps too but that's overkill for me. I'd be very happy with an ICE 250axl2 module in the Micro -- fronted by my Noble pre!
 
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I spoke with Mike recently and he offered to upgrade mine if I wanted to so he might be willing to take it on. Ask him. i know he's busy building cabinets (mine among them) but he might.

Yeah,
Believe me when I tell you, that Mike’s got quite a few MAS 1/8’s on order. When I purchased mine in January, he told me that he was build them ahead of time, to try and keep up with the demand. I couldn’t be happier with mine, it’s the “one cabinet to rule them all”.
It kind of puzzles me why Euphonic Audio would build the doubler and not offer it with a higher powered version? I guess they are trying to keep the price reasonable to put the Doubler in
line with their major competition Acoustic Image. There’s also possibly a heat despersion differental between the power modules. Of course, I’m just spitballin here, could be something else entirely. They did say that the amp was “scaleable” up to 1,000 watts, when they introduced it, indicating that an “Ultra” Doubler was something they might make avaliable somewhere down the line. All that said the revisions in the new Doubler II would be all I’d need power wise for most of my gigs. Especially in a 2.5 pound amp.


Ric
 
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The power supply is in the module. Ea used the 125asx2 . The 250 asx2 is the big brother. If I'm not mistaken they are using the 250asx2 in the new Doubler. The 250 uses all of the same connectors as the 125. You just have to drill different holes for the 250. Easy job, but it would void a warranty. Mine's been like this for 4 years with no problems. The 125 and 250 are the same except power modules and a bigger supply. But it fits perfectly. You can't buy the modules from ICE. I can only buy them in larger lots.OEM only. There are some for sale on Ebay. Same power module as the Puma 900. One thing that EA does---they are not into 10% distortion figures. They don't push the amp too hard. So---their amps won't go quite as loud as some other amps based on the 250 ASX2 module. But they'll be cleaner.
 
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The power supply is in the module. Ea used the 125asx2 . The 250 asx2 is the big brother. If I'm not mistaken they are using the 250asx2 in the new Doubler. The 250 uses all of the same connectors as the 125. You just have to drill different holes for the 250. Easy job, but it would void a warranty. Mine's been like this for 4 years with no problems. The 125 and 250 are the same except power modules and a bigger supply. But it fits perfectly. You can't buy the modules from ICE. I can only buy them in larger lots.OEM only. There are some for sale on Ebay. Same power module as the Puma 900. One thing that EA does---they are not into 10% distortion figures. They don't push the amp too hard. So---their amps won't go quite as loud as some other amps based on the 250 ASX2 module. But they'll be cleaner.
Thanks for the info Mike, I'm not seeing any 250asx2 modules on ebay. I see several 125asx or 50asx and some cable kits for 250asx2. I sent the US sales manager for Icepower an email a few days ago and he has not replied. I'm probably just going to buy the Doubler mk2. Iether that or switch to powered cabinets and get the wayne jones 2 channel preamp. I was thinking that I was onto a 3rd option here with an upgraded power module but it seems to be a dead end.
 
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.......I'm probably just going to buy the Doubler mk2. Either that or switch to powered cabinets and get the wayne jones 2 channel preamp. I was thinking that I was onto a 3rd option here with an upgraded power module but it seems to be a dead end.

I went with a MAS 1/8 and the Grace Felix. It’s expensive, but worth saving your pennies for. Their will be a few MAS 1/8’s starting to appear in the TB
classifieds, one already made it there. There have been a couple of Grace Felix’s as well. It may be a while before any Doubler MK II’s show up. The new Doubler’s are nice and they have real DI now, with the extra headroom this amp has been seriously upgraded.

Ric
 
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I never had a gen I to compare it to but I love my doubler II. With the NL 112 up on a stand I get a great (and loud) tone for my upright and electric. I hardly touch my p bass anymore but it's nice to know that if I wanted to, it sounds great through the amp
 
I found a source for these power amps. Unfortunately I became impatient and put down the $900 to buy a Doubler 2 a couple of weeks ago and have my original doubler up for sale. I'm not sure if its worth it to put the $350 down to upgrade an amp that's on its way out.

Heres the source for single and low volume units ICEPOWER250ASX2 - 250W Class D amp with resonant gearbox power supply

Grant,
I think you made the right decision, the Doubler II has a lot more power. :thumbsup:

P.S. plus you have warranty coverage to boot. All my dealings with EA have
been exceptional, there great folks to work with.