using an EQ through the input jack

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I have a Tech 21 Qstrip and a Whirlwind . Both will do want you want . I use the Qstrip most . mainly due to flexibility of it . Also it has HPF and a LPF

+1!

The Q-strip is one of the coolest utility sound sculpting boxes out there. I had a chance to borrow one for a few days and I came away very impressed by it. I keep thinking I’ll get one just to keep it in my gig bag. The feature set is beautifully thought out and nicely implemented. Definitely a working musician’s general purpose tool kit. There aren’t too many sound issues you’ll encounter that it couldn’t handle. Price is right too!

 

[40Hz]

Whether you choose to use your compressor unit to change the gain or not is up to you. "Compression loses/gains drive" is a blanket statement, however, and a statement I would prefer not to see.

^This! A thousand times this.

 

[Buzz E]

You'll like the Whirlwind. I had one for a while but thought I'd try something else so I sold it. Started purchasing and flipping the HPF's, a Q-Strip and other parametric eq's. Nothing matched the Whirlwind's tonal variations, flexibility and build quality. Plus it's dead quiet. I ended up getting rid of everything else and purchased another Whirlwind. I plug right into the amps main input.

 

[Kipp Harrington]

my whirlwind 10 arrives next week

Right on Be sure to let us know how it works out for you.

 

[Sparkl]

i have a question regarding a 7 or 10 band EQ. i want to lose a little bass, add a little presence and clarity and lose a little of the highest end. if you plug your bass into the EQ and the EQ into the front of your amp, can the EQ be pretty effective? i guess i'm wondering how much it will affect tone when your amp and its own flavor is in front of it...

My simple logic goes as follows: do you like the natural response of your amp but jist want to tailor the sound from the root of the signal? - > put your eq before the preamp.

If you dislike something that is voiced in the amp you should probably get better results from putting the eq in the fxloop section. Provided that the loop fx returns directly to the power amp.

But in that case you might as well want to change your amp for something you prefer more.

In my experience it is the easiest and the cheapest to first find a good base for your needs (amp) and then correct small nuances your built in eq can't by adding additional eq.

 

[lat]

Likely not at all what the OP is looking for, but for others that are reading this that are looking for solutions, I have found a paraeq with a high/low shelf inserted into my amp's effects loop has worked well for me in dealing with tone shaping and room/stage issues.

 

[Cave Puppy]

thanks - since i just ordered a whirlwind bass ten yesterday, i think i'll play with it for a while and see how it goes.

but i do like the idea of the presets a lot, i must admit.

That SA EQ can also automatically scroll through the 4 EQ presets for an entirely different effect, kind of like a wah. In general, there should no issues with running an EQ before the pre-amp on your amp.

 

[shwashwa]

i don't use drive or any distortion. i play 100% clean 95% or better of the time. i rarely use compression or effects.

i'm just wondering if using an eq - in this case, a whirlwind bass ten - will let me shape the tone fairly well when used thus
bass --> eq--> input jack of head

yes

 

[pcake]

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I have a Tech 21 Qstrip and a Whirlwind . Both will do want you want . I use the Qstrip most . mainly due to flexibility of it . Also it has HPF and a LPF

i didn't love the qstrip when i had it, but luckily sweetwater took it back. it's possible i didn't spend enough time playing with it, though.

I think this is what you want.
https://www.broughtonaudio.com/product-page/resonant-filter-equalizer

interesting. do you think the adjustable mids make an improvement over this
https://www.broughtonaudio.com/product-page/low-high-pass-filter
which was next on my list to try.

 

[40Hz]

If you dislike something that is voiced in the amp you should probably get better results from putting the eq in the fxloop section. Provided that the loop fx returns directly to the power amp.

Interesting. I’ve tried putting EQ in the loop a few times just to see, and it never worked out very well. Mostly due to level, noise, or impedance issues. About the only EQ type device I ever found that did work well was a HPF that was spec’d to be used there.

I think if you’re going to go to that length, you'd be better off just getting an outboard preamp that can drive the effects return and sidestep the amp’s own preamp stage entirely.

 

[lowendrv]

i didn't love the qstrip when i had it, but luckily sweetwater took it back. it's possible i didn't spend enough time playing with it, though.



interesting. do you think the adjustable mids make an improvement over this
https://www.broughtonaudio.com/product-page/low-high-pass-filter
which was next on my list to try.

No experience Boughton stuff . I found the biggest problem with eqs most people cut and boost way too much . On all eq's I found a very little goes a long way .

 

[NKBassman]

interesting. do you think the adjustable mids make an improvement over this
https://www.broughtonaudio.com/product-page/low-high-pass-filter
which was next on my list to try.

I haven't used the Reso. Filter myself, but in my experience having an adjustable mid band is never a bad thing. At worst you can just set it to 0 and not use it.

The beauty of the Resonant Filter though is the resonance controls themselves. They allow you to boost the high and low band at the LPF/HPF cutoff frequency. From your OP, this sounded exactly like what you were looking for...

i want to ... add a little presence and clarity and lose a little of the highest end.

For instance, with the LPF set at a given frequency, you can add a little peak and then cut off everything above that. Your frequency plot would look like this:

Broughton stuff is really top notch. There's a reason all his pedals are always sold out.

 

[pcake]

I haven't used the Reso. Filter myself, but in my experience having an adjustable mid band is never a bad thing. At worst you can just set it to 0 and not use it.

The beauty of the Resonant Filter though is the resonance controls themselves. They allow you to boost the high and low band at the LPF/HPF cutoff frequency. From your OP, this sounded exactly like what you were looking for...



For instance, with the LPF set at a given frequency, you can add a little peak and then cut off everything above that. Your frequency plot would look like this:
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On top of that, Broughton stuff is top notch. There's a reason all his pedals are always sold out.

well, darn - wish i'd have waited for comments on this thread before ordering...

 

[NKBassman]

well, darn - wish i'd have waited for comments on this thread before ordering...

There's always next paycheque.

 

[pcake]

There's always next paycheque.

*LOLOL*

if only we didn't have a mortgage

and i'm teetering on the point of buying a PJ or mustang...

maybe i need to work a couple more jobs

 

[minddrain]

*LOLOL*

if only we didn't have a mortgage

and i'm teetering on the point of buying a PJ or mustang...

maybe i need to work a couple more jobs

If I can just get my kid to move out after college!!

 

[NKBassman]

No experience Boughton stuff . I found the biggest problem with eqs most people cut and boost way too much . On all eq's I found a very little goes a long way .

That's not really a problem with the EQs... That's user error.

 

[NKBassman]

Likely not at all what the OP is looking for, but for others that are reading this that are looking for solutions, I have found a paraeq with HPF/LPF inserted into my amp's effects loop has worked well for me in dealing with tone shaping and room/stage issues.

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You had me kind of excited about that Rolls EQ for a split second, but I don't see a HPF/LPF on that EQ. I see high and low shelving, which is different than High/Low Pass Filtering.

 

[lat]

You had me kind of excited about that Rolls EQ for a split second, but I don't see a HPF/LPF on that EQ. I see high and low shelving, which is different than High/Low Pass Filtering.

True that, I'll fix my post... But, it does the job for me, regardless...

 

[NKBassman]

True that, I'll fix my post... But, it does the job for me, regardless...

I'd love to find a cheap-ish rack EQ with adjustable HPF and LPF, High and Low Shelving, and a couple of parametric bands in the middle. That's why I scrutinized your post so closely