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Double Bass Velvet strings megathread part II

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Simon
Glad to hear of the fast reply. I am awaiting a set of Animas from Lou at LNR and when I read your post I was a little anxious that I might run into the same problem. If so its good to see that Velvet will take care of things.
 
Im really sold on Velvet after this experience , I dont think my case is common , just make sure your bridge and nut grooves are wide enough, and are only a third of the string width deep, and there are absolutely no sharp edges at any point of the grooves ,and dont spare the graphite. they are worth the extra care.
 
One of the things that I've discovered over the years is that the tone you hear in your ear is not necessarily what someone else will hear farther away from the bass.

I agree with that, and in fact it was borne out in my session last night, where most everyone commented on the warmth of the sound put out by the velvet blues. In addition, it was the first time I played with this particular group, a quintent, with no amp. The fact that the blues are bright and articulate to the player yet warmer and more organic to the listener is definitely an asset, allowing you to hear what your doing without sacrificing a warmer tone. They have also warmed up considerably since i put them on. I hope this trend continues without loss of volume.

The volume is just great , even on my smallish german bass. Not to say I didn't work a little harder, coaxed by the fact that with just a bit bigger sound I could approach playing unamplified. This gives me great incentive to improve my technique with regards to volume. Relying on an amp in sessions has tended to make me a little lazy at times. I can feel it a little this morning though. Got keep working at it.

In terms of feel, they are quite different form the superflexibles,
and then innovations 140bs I had been using. The profile of the windings make moving around on them more challenging than those smoother strings, requiring some adjustment in approach that I haven't quite nailed yet.

They are on the lower end of the spectrum tension-wise, but not without a certain stiffness, reminiscent of the way dominants feel stiff, but again at a much lower tension.
I had a set of animas at one point , and it seems that the animas were a little more flexible.

In general, feel and playability are not my favorite at this point, although they're not awful. They just feel so different than the thomastiks I was used to. Hopefully I'll acclimate.
 
I hate to start another thread, but before I make the almost $300 plunge I realy need a few questions answered.

1) I have weiches on my bass now. The bass is a great sounding german bass, but it isn't very loud. With the light strings on there (even with the action up a bit), it just isn't that huge sounding acoustically. Are animas going to raise the volume of the bass acoustically? And if so, how much of a difference should I expect?
2) How does the tension compare? I love the tension of the weiches. They are so easy to play. I could go a bit heavier or lighter, but not as heavy as evah's again. I injured my wrist and just can't take that much beating again.
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3) How does the growl and clarity compare. On the audio recordings I've checked out the animas seem to be very punchy and clear.



I really want to do it... man.
it's just so expensive. and I can't end up not liking them. I will always have the spiros as a back up. Which is heart warming. But I just can't deal with the really quiet bass right now. It's too much for me.


sneaky: Toad is right.
If the bass is not loud with the Weichs, no amount of string swapping will hide that fact that your bass is the problem.
Start by getting the soundpost position checked out. Is it in the right spot to get a full response from your bass? Does your bridge need thinning out? What are you using for a tailpiece gut? Try the kevlar cord for 15 bucks to see if that helps. Do you play firmly enough? Is all your playing through an amp or PA? If it is......problem solved. Just turn up the volume.:)
If none of this helps it looks like you are stuck with a low volume bass that sounds good.
 
One gig down. They feel really nice and have a blunt attack but with good sustain and growl. Through the amp it's a big sound, but certainly old school. One great thing is the way the sound is so solid all the way up into thumb position where other strings get thin. On this bass, I've tried Mittels, Superflexibles, Corellis, Helicore Hybrids and Obligatos. Maybe EP's are the answer, lol...
Also, they are much easier to bow than any of these other strings on this bass. That's something I wouldn't expect from Animas.
Saturday's gig will tell me a lot more as it's a much better room that I'm familiar with and the I'll also see what the other guys think.
 
Kolstein. German bow with white hair. I dunno why, but the arco is easy as pie. The tone is immediately even without those annoying squeaks I would get on Mittels when not using enough bow pressure. The Oblis rolled too much to get a good grab. Corelli's? Easy, but wimpy. I guess the Supers were pretty good, but I remember the overall tone being pretty simple; boring.
It is a little grainy, but consistent. The Animas have an organic kind of bloom that is addictive.
Damn, this is going to be a wine tasting isn't it? :(
 
Just put a set of Animas on my NS Cleveland. I had the standard Spiros on there and, I don't know if it was just because the reds were dead or not, the Animas' sound was huge in comparison.

I had Garbos on my old bass and now I know why I like Velvets. The touch of old-school sound without the hassle of guts. Great compromise, huge sound. Now if I could just fast forward a week so I don't have to tune every 30 seconds......
 
Update:
I switched the A and D to Garbo for a few days, but took them off. The round winding on the D bugged me. The Anima G is similar but doesn't bother me. Go figure. They feel better than anything else I've used.

I am absolutely loving these strings and can't imagine anything else doing it for me.
There is that tight pop at the beginning of the note that just makes the tone cut right through. The tone is darker, but with plenty of sustain. Have I mentioned how much the bass resonates? It has simply roared to life.

I have gigged with a loud big band (Realist), trio (AT Pro 35 mic) and guitar duo (Realist, barely). Compliments on the sound each time.

And yes, they bow really well on this bass.

Pitch? They don't hold as well as Spirocores, maybe dropping up to a half step after a couple hours of play. That and the black fingers are a very small price to pay.
 
Obviously, I haven't gigged on my bass yet. I had a break in my gig schedule and figured this would be the time to do a string switch.

I have a ATM 350. Where do you position your AT 35? You reminded me to do a search on the 35/350 mics and found a thread recommending attaching it to the bridge? What works for you? In noisy situations, it doesn't seem to be a hot enough signal for me. Do the Animas sound true through your mic?
 
Obviously, I haven't gigged on my bass yet. I had a break in my gig schedule and figured this would be the time to do a string switch.

I have a ATM 350. Where do you position your AT 35? You reminded me to do a search on the 35/350 mics and found a thread recommending attaching it to the bridge? What works for you? In noisy situations, it doesn't seem to be a hot enough signal for me. Do the Animas sound true through your mic?

You're right, the bridge isn't hot enough for noisy places. For those, clip it to the string side of the treble f-hole, pointing at the top an inch and a half away. When you get it right the mic will 'see' just enough of the f-hole to get a really full sound.
 
Yep, and Nope.
I bought this Hyper-cardiod element for it:
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It is the one available for use with the 350, but fits fine and works much better than the Cardiod.
I clip it to the G side adjuster and position it about an inch from the top just above the ff. Right over the ff overloads the mic on my bass, but close and it sounds really nice.

Oh,
One of these:
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wrapped around the bridge foot prevents the mic from being pulled off.

And yes, the Animas amplify really well, both through the mic and pickup.
 
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