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Very light full-range cabinets?

#21
Jim Carr said:
Wow, Duke, thanks. I do understand well what you are saying, and I am quite used to EQing for my fEARfuls in a way that would look to most as extreme. I use an M9 carbine or a GK mb800 for my electric gigs—so I have power to push that kind of low bumped curve into 8, 4, or 2 ohms.

Can the TC115-8 be configured as upright friendly? I seem to recall that it can. I will check the BG reviews. Thanks! :cool:
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Yes, the TC115-8 can easily be fitted with the "acoustic friendly" rear-firing tweeter. That adds about 1.5 pounds.

The TC115-8 is essentially a "second generation" cab, in that it uses a butt-cheeks style horn which gives improved dispersion in the vertical plane, useful for when you're jammed almost on top of the cab on a tight stage. This is an improvement for upright as well, as we're getting more upper-octaves energy out into the reverberant field, and thereby doing a bit better job of simulating an actual acoustic instrument.

I'm not sure this necessarily translates directly to Island Music, but it is arguably a commentary on the cab's versatility - my first TC115-8 owner recently posted about how the cab performed on an electronic drumkit:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/audiokinesis-cabs-part-vi-988858/index12.html#post15175061

What frequency(ies) are you boosting into your fEARful to get that Island sound, if I may ask? I want to do some modelling, as my 115 does fall short of the mighty fEARful 15/6/1 in air-moving capability.
 
#22
Sorry to hear you're struggling there, Jim! I don't think I would want to schlep a cab that required help from another person either.

I guess we're all pretty lucky these days. 30 years ago (even less), if you couldn't lug around a 100lb + cab, you were out of luck. These days there are some shockingly great sounding cabs that go well below 40lbs, and I think they sound much better than the boat anchors of yesteryear :)
 
#24
Jim Carr said:
What about AudioKinesis? I see the Thunderchild 112 is 30 lbs and the 115 is 40, but I wonder if the lowend is big enough for "Island Music?"
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Jim,
I have a TC 112 (30 lbs.) that's my cabinet of choice for either Double Bass or Electric bass. It's lightweight, compact, and has the best tonal palate of an cabinet I've ever owned. Since I play different size venues frequently, I can attest to it's superior handling of gigs where you wouldn't think it would keep up. On several occasions, where I've had to play outside, it's covered the stage with sound. Duke has redesigned the cabinet to be even more efficient, and I would think a pair of TC 115's would be up to the task of any onstage gig's, unless your playing a stadium. It's just the best cabinet for doubling I've played through and my former cabinets were Euphonic Audio VL 208's. My Walter Woods Ultra or MI-400-8 provide all the volume I'd ever need . You owe it to yourself to seek some one out who has a TC 112 or 115 and try it out.

Ric


Jim Carr said:
I guess I am looking for two cabs, each 40 lbs or less that really deliver wide clean response, big lowend, and lots of power handling/volume. Efficiency, size, and price are not big concerns.
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#27
This is what I did to replace my 15/6/1 . Xsonics 212cf .

http://xsonics.com/Products/Crossfire.html

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It probably isn't the best for Reggae although it does go quite low with definition . It gets as loud as my 15/6/1 cab did on stage and I like the tone a bunch . It's more of a traditional sound since it's just a two way without the mid but has been very easy to hear in the mix . It works great for me . I was having trouble getting my 15/6/1 up and down my basement stairs and also the basement stairs where we practice . This Xsonics cab is lighter , smaller and much easier to lug on stairs .

Dukes cabs would probably give you the closest full range sound coming from you fEarful but I just thought I'd give you an option as I had the exact same problem .
 
#28
Take a look at Barefaced cabs. I have the big twin.
The big twin 2 it's on their website.
The specifications - Big twin 2
Dimensions
33.5" high x 20.5" wide x 14.6" deep
Weight
22.5 kg / 49 lbs (steel grill)
21 kg / 46 lbs (cloth grill)
PISTONIC Sensitivity
100dB - louder than a great 4x10"
USABLE Frequency RANGE

30Hz - 20kHz
Recommended Amp Power
100-1600W RMS
Max CONTINUOUS BROADBAND & LF SPL
133dB - comparable to really good 4x12" and 8x10" cabs
 
#31
I would either go with a pair of Duke's TC 112s or fEARful / fEARless 112s.

My 12/6 is 36LBS (probably could have got it lighter if I tried) and 12sub is 30LBS. Having owned a 15/6 they are similar tonally for sure. The 12 cabs are modular and lighter and go louder (4 ohm load, dual driver) and have the advantage of being closer to your ears on small stages.

Really can't beat a couple 3012LF equipped cabs for reggae IMO.
 
#33
Ukiah Bass said:
Fearless is a great idea for going lightweight, having full range response, and absolutely the best tone! My Greenboy Audio Fearless 210 uses drivers with high excursion capability. It can take 900+ watts @ 4ohms, weighs 46 pounds and gets as loud as a good 410. Excellent mobile form factor. Good for when there is no house PA support.

My review, pics, sound sample here -> www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/fearless-f210-955149/index4.html#141

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If you have house PA support, a lighter cab with the right components will do fine. My Fearless 110 takes 500+ watts @ 8ohm, is as loud as a good 210 and weighs 31 lbs. Sounds the same as the F210.

My review, pics, sound samples - > www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/bad-fearless-110-greenboy-goes-even-smaller-950735/index2.html#57

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Those are great looking cabs! I really like 210's...
 
#38
::::BASSIST:::: said:
I would either go with a pair of Duke's TC 112s or fEARful / fEARless 112s.

My 12/6 is 36LBS (probably could have got it lighter if I tried) and 12sub is 30LBS. Having owned a 15/6 they are similar tonally for sure. The 12 cabs are modular and lighter and go louder (4 ohm load, dual driver) and have the advantage of being closer to your ears on small stages.

Really can't beat a couple 3012LF equipped cabs for reggae IMO.
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+1

I love my fEARfuls. I have one in Texas and one in Hawaii. Depending on the course of my healing, I may be replacing both. I won't be spending a lot of time in Hawaii right away, but eventually it will be home—I am very comfortable with the 3015LF+mid-driver thing, and in fact EQ most of the energy above ~4k out of my sound. The tweeters in my 15/6/1's are not really getting much business.:D

Guess I need to consider what works for gigging in my current situation. Can't really tell what my lifting limits might be in the near future or a bit further down the road. No way am I giving up playing damned loud and low! :smug:

Perhaps I should reconsider the DIY approach? I have the skills and space, just no tools and a bad back. At the moment, I'm thinking fEARFUL 12/6 and 12sub might be the right way to go. :eyebrow:

Still—Duke's new cabs ARE interesting. I'm looking for more details...:cool:
 

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