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Vintage Ampeg SVT Info Help

#21
anderbass said:
I cant read the knob labeling in your pic, but just to avoid confusion; here's a pic of a real Ampeg SVT V9:

The V9 was the 6-string guitar variant of the SVT with additional Reverb & Distortion knobs. Many of the conventional SVT amps Intended for bass guitar ended up having 'V9' labeling on the back side, but they were not actually a V9 variant.

I assume the reason for this situation is that Ampeg printed lots & lots of the V9 rear covers, and when these comparatively rare V9 variants did not end up selling as well as expected; Ampeg simply used them up installed on the normal SVT's.
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That explains it! Yes there is no reverb or distortion channel on the amp.
 
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#22
Kenneth Francis said:
This is great! Thank you. I’m in the Los Angeles area and I’ll check out Craigslist. The Eden and the Ampeg 2x12 sound great. I had seen the Eden name but didn’t know anything about it. Thank you.
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If you look for a used Eden cab be careful to get a D410XLT, not a D410T.

Also, there are far more 8-ohm Eden 410 cabs out there than 4-ohm.
 
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Grinderman said:
I wish a sealed 4-ohm SVT 410HE were a thing.

+ If Ampeg could voice that correctly with neodymium drivers. :angel:
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Eminence makes the SC10-16 which are 16 ohm neo drivers designed for a sealed cab. You'd have to check the volume specs against the dimensions of the 410HE but that would allow you to wire up a 4 ohm neo 410. You'd have to yank the crossover/horn too.
 
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ok. that's a guitar amp meant to a v9 9 speaker cab.. if it's just staying in one spot.. I'd get peavey 215 or ampeg 810.. or a make custom load box.. or find a 4 ohm neo driver that will work in that cab.. or check out hartke hydrive..
 
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Grinderman said:
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If you look for a used Eden cab be careful to get a D410XLT, not a D410T.

Also, there are far more 8-ohm Eden 410 cabs out there than 4-ohm.
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Just as an FYI, the Eden cab pictured is a David Series 410XLT. It handles 700-watts rms and is a GREAT sounding cab. It has a low-mid hump built-in that gives you great presence and definition when playing in a group. I actually boost the low-mids in my Eden and DNA amps to get a similar sound (don't boost too much or your sound will honk at you). After David Nordschow (aka- David Eden) left Eden in 2009 to found DNA, they changed the name of this series from David Series to just D-series and changed the badge on the front of the cab accordingly. So the ones you see with the D-series badges are newer although the design is still the same.

The other Eden cabs you may find are the XST cabs. Those have higher handling power but slightly lower sensitivity than the XLT (103db@1W/1M in the XST instead of 106db@1W/1M in the XLT). The XST cabs don't have that low-mid hump but have flatter response between the bass and treble roll-offs at each end of the spectrum. Although the XST has higher power handling the two cabs reach about the same max SPL because the XST has a 3db lower starting point. Although the XLT has a great sounding bottom end, the XST cabs have a lower and more tightly focused bottom end. Both the D410XLT and XST cabs sold originally in the $800 to $1,000 range.

You can tell which cab you have by which ports the cab uses. The earliest T-series had a round port in the back of the cab. Some of the T-series cabs had the front shelf along the bottom. As @Grinderman suggested, be sure to check the label on the back of the cab to verify which model and what ohm rating the cab is. The XLT has two shelf ports as you see in the photo from @Grinderman. The XST just has one shelf port at the bottom of the cab.
 
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#34
Rip Van Dan said:
Just as an FYI, the Eden cab pictured is a David Series 410XLT. It handles 700-watts rms and is a GREAT sounding cab. It has a low-mid hump built-in that gives you great presence and definition when playing in a group. I actually boost the low-mids in my Eden and DNA amps to get a similar sound (don't boost too much or your sound will honk at you). After David Nordschow (aka- David Eden) left Eden in 2009 to found DNA, they changed the name of this series from David Series to just D-series and changed the badge on the front of the cab accordingly. So the ones you see with the D-series badges are newer although the design is still the same.

The other Eden cabs you may find are the XST cabs. Those have higher handling power but slightly lower sensitivity than the XLT (103db@1W/1M in the XST instead of 106db@1W/1M in the XLT). The XST cabs don't have that low-mid hump but have flatter response between the bass and treble roll-offs at each end of the spectrum. Although the XST has higher power handling the two cabs reach about the same max SPL because the XST has a 3db lower starting point. Although the XLT has a great sounding bottom end, the XST cabs have a lower and more tightly focused bottom end. Both the D410XLT and XST cabs sold originally in the $800 to $1,000 range.

You can tell which cab you have by which ports the cab uses. The earliest T-series had a round port in the back of the cab. Some of the T-series cabs had the front shelf along the bottom. As @Grinderman suggested, be sure to check the label on the back of the cab to verify which model and what ohm rating the cab is. The XLT has two shelf ports as you see in the photo from @Grinderman. The XST just has one shelf port at the bottom of the cab.
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XST's are great cabs but I believe the voicing of the XLT cabs is better suited to Ampeg amp heads--unless you're doing something like reggae or dub music.
 
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Short4since64 said:
Ran 4 JBL 15's (2225s in the scoop cabinets designed for them) Incredible. Felt like being shoved from behind. You WILL blow out a single D140, and when it goes open and the unloaded voltage goes to the moon then arc over in the amp doing serious damage. 400W speaker capability is in the right range. If you want the SVT to do the famous Ampeg grind, you need a fridge.
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Or a Berg NV610. They are getting hard to find though. [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
 
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Kenneth Francis said:
That is currently beyond my comprehension but I’ll get it eventually.
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I haven't gone and looked on the Eminence website for the SC10-16, but generally Eminence provides a document with cabinet designs for a driver. Can you build a strong sealed wooden box? That would really be all you need to understand. Build two 2x10 cabs and stack them vertically for an easier carry and better sound. (Build four for even better sound :D)
 
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