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Wal Mart and their ridiculous practices

supply and demand, right? not taking into account the harmful effects on the environment, mental health, community...

How is selling goods cheaper than everyone else harmful to the environment, anyone's mental health, or to the community? How is being the world's largest employer who is in the habit of paying a decent living wage (and more than minimum wage) harmful to the environment, anyone's mental health, or to the community?


this is obviously pointless. a capitalist will be a capitalist as long as they're allowed.

LoL I suppose you're looking to add a hammer and sickle to the American flag? I was always kind of fond of the ol' Stars and Stripes myself...


just as slave owners were.

Really? What part of slavery is analogous to Walmart? We both know it was easier being a slave... no drug test! Forgive my sarcasm, but ridiculous claims lend themselves to ridiculous replies.


there were very compelling arguments made for slavery by both southern and northern politicians, businessmen, land lords in the mid 1800s.

And they were so noble, they were even going to allow the slave men to count as 3/5 of a man! Mighty white of them. There was nothing compelling, not even a little bit, and certain not "very" much so. Owning someone is wrong, plain and simple. No one at Walmart owns anyone. I'm living proof that you can opt out of a position at Walmart... I no longer work there. How many slaves do you think put in their 2-week notice and then went about their business? I never got the cat when I ran away from Walmart. And they didn't take my daughter away and sell her either.


and they swayed a lot of people with talk of improving conditions, caring for their slaves because they owned them and thus they were capital.

You're comparing false claims about slavery to the factual realities of capitalism. Apples to apples please.


wage slavery [what we have now] means that everyone must rent themselves.

We're free to charge whatever rent we want to. THAT is why capitalism is an absolutely beautiful system. If you feel you're worth 5 bucks an hour, then you can get a job making that. If you feel you're worth more than that, you are free to refuse every single 5 dollar an hour job that is ever offered to you. In communism (seemingly your favorite tragically-devised and failure-destined economic system) you don't get to choose what you do for a living, nor do you get to decide what your time and skills are worth. Whether you're a janitor or an engineer, you make the same amount, and assets to mankind like creativity, work ethic, ambition, determination, etc are lost without the ability to reap the rewards of such characteristics. I think they might have a bit of info online about this... Google "USSR" for more info.


if you own something, you take care of it. if you rent it, you'll let it get frayed around the edges if not totally abused then discard it and replace it with another individual to be forced into the position of a cog in a machine.

If you live an upright life with dignity and respect, you will take care of something whether you own it or not. I know plenty of people who don't take care of things they OWN. Your logic is fatally flawed.


"gain wealth, forgetting all but self."

What's the point of quoting something without mentioning a source? And I've gained a lot of wealth from giving to people. Wealth is more than money. And the idea that wealth is a purely selfish endeavor is off the mark.
 
Despite all the bad mouthing of Wal Mart, the real problem is the trash clientele.

I had to make a stop there today and the parking lot experience made me sympathize with throwing somebody to the ground and handcuffing them. Also, the crime section for the local paper is 50% about shoplifters getting busted at Walmart. Classy Customers indeed.
 
Despite all the bad mouthing of Wal Mart, the real problem is the trash clientele.

I had to make a stop there today and the parking lot experience made me sympathize with throwing somebody to the ground and handcuffing them. Also, the crime section for the local paper is 50% about shoplifters getting busted at Walmart. Classy Customers indeed.
Looks like your post pushed h-cat over the edge.

Mike
 
How is selling goods cheaper than everyone else harmful to the environment, anyone's mental health, or to the community? How is being the world's largest employer who is in the habit of paying a decent living wage (and more than minimum wage) harmful to the environment, anyone's mental health, or to the community?




LoL I suppose you're looking to add a hammer and sickle to the American flag? I was always kind of fond of the ol' Stars and Stripes myself...




Really? What part of slavery is analogous to Walmart? We both know it was easier being a slave... no drug test! Forgive my sarcasm, but ridiculous claims lend themselves to ridiculous replies.




And they were so noble, they were even going to allow the slave men to count as 3/5 of a man! Mighty white of them. There was nothing compelling, not even a little bit, and certain not "very" much so. Owning someone is wrong, plain and simple. No one at Walmart owns anyone. I'm living proof that you can opt out of a position at Walmart... I no longer work there. How many slaves do you think put in their 2-week notice and then went about their business? I never got the cat when I ran away from Walmart. And they didn't take my daughter away and sell her either.




You're comparing false claims about slavery to the factual realities of capitalism. Apples to apples please.




We're free to charge whatever rent we want to. THAT is why capitalism is an absolutely beautiful system. If you feel you're worth 5 bucks an hour, then you can get a job making that. If you feel you're worth more than that, you are free to refuse every single 5 dollar an hour job that is ever offered to you. In communism (seemingly your favorite tragically-devised and failure-destined economic system) you don't get to choose what you do for a living, nor do you get to decide what your time and skills are worth. Whether you're a janitor or an engineer, you make the same amount, and assets to mankind like creativity, work ethic, ambition, determination, etc are lost without the ability to reap the rewards of such characteristics. I think they might have a bit of info online about this... Google "USSR" for more info.




If you live an upright life with dignity and respect, you will take care of something whether you own it or not. I know plenty of people who don't take care of things they OWN. Your logic is fatally flawed.




What's the point of quoting something without mentioning a source? And I've gained a lot of wealth from giving to people. Wealth is more than money. And the idea that wealth is a purely selfish endeavor is off the mark.


Just a reminder that we're not supposed to talk politics at TalkBass, you bourgeois swine! :p
 
Yeah, that's some BS. I also can't stand how they check your receipts and your merchandise as you leave. $^#@ you. I just bought it. I own it. It's mine. I don't have to show it to you if I don't want to. Way to show that you value and trust your customer by treating them like they're all thieves.

Needless to say, I take my business elsewhere.

it's not that they don't trust you, it's that they don't trust their own employees... people have been know to slip items through the scanning station without actually letting it get scanned as a special discount to friends and family...
 
I also can't stand how they check your receipts and your merchandise as you leave.

It's not just the customers. My sister-in-law and her husband work at the main distro center in Bentonville. Employees are scanned when they leave their shifts, and those who handle the jewelry have to take off their shoes for inspection as they leave for the day.

-Mike
 
meh...walmart hate is in vogue. Just like all the other "hates" that are in style now. You just aint a cool mod hipster is you don't hate and berate:
religion
USA
guns
conservatism
etc etc etc

It's an attitude that some people don like a pair of pants. Ask them "why" and it will then turn into the standard almost scripted responses that sound good, but completely crumble when challenged. Oh dont get me wrong, there are those who are very sincere and absolutely know what they're talking about in regards to disliking the above..but..they're outnumbered methinks...
Not trying to turn this political, nor am I targeting anyone here in particular but this is just what I see around me these days...YMMV of course
 
meh...walmart hate is in vogue. Just like all the other "hates" that are in style now. You just aint a cool mod hipster is you don't hate and berate:
religion
USA
guns
conservatism
etc etc etc

It's an attitude that some people don like a pair of pants. Ask them "why" and it will then turn into the standard almost scripted responses that sound good, but completely crumble when challenged. Oh dont get me wrong, there are those who are very sincere and absolutely know what they're talking about in regards to disliking the above..but..they're outnumbered methinks...
Not trying to turn this political, nor am I targeting anyone here in particular but this is just what I see around me these days...YMMV of course

Sorry but there's plenty of dogma to go around. Plenty. I'll leave it at that.
:cool:
 
It's not just the customers. My sister-in-law and her husband work at the main distro center in Bentonville. Employees are scanned when they leave their shifts, and those who handle the jewelry have to take off their shoes for inspection as they leave for the day.

-Mike
Gee you gotta do that when going to a concert, and when you fly.

Does that make rockers and airlines bad too?

Takin' it a bit further, The TSA is who screens passengers boarding planes, for our own safety, yet the TSA can't control its own employees from stealing from passenger's luggage.
 
Gee you gotta do that when going to a concert, and when you fly.

Does that make rockers and airlines bad too?

I wasn't complaining. I got no problems with WalMart. The 24 hour convenience has saved me more than a few times. Nothing else like WalMart is open 24 hours around here.

I was just mentioning that it isn't only customers they double check on when exiting a facility owned by WalMart.

-Mike
 

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