It's stunning to me that in a supposedly advanced nation state, you can't let competitors swim in the Seine. Is this why French perfumers are a world standard?
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I thought about the inclusion of break dancing, why not bring in events for young people?
In fact, for the first time I saw the gun shooting stuff, I say remove those war related events. Why include something that was specifically created to kill?
In fact, for the first time I saw the gun shooting stuff, I say remove those war related events. Why include something that was specifically created to kill?
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Just as with archery, precision sport shooting involves highly developed physical skills of the full body; Hand-eye coordination, control of breath, and conditioning of muscle groups that encompass everything from overall posture and stance, to fine-motor control of the hands & fingers.
Certain modern target shooting events are also more closely related to hunting than war. That's why the clays are referred to as "pigeons." (In fact, in the earliest years of the modern Olympics, the targets were actual pigeons. The switch to mechanically flung clays came in 1900).
Nobody worries about archery as a sport, simply because the use of those instruments in warfare is so long outdated. Shooting sports are just as legitimate as a pursuit on the merits of the physical skills involved, and don't promote "war" any more than bows and arrows do. In fact, sport shooting has some of the most tightly controlled safety rules, and well disciplined participants, you'll find anywhere. (The level of precision involved absolutely demands calmness, focus, and mental clarity to do even marginally well; Hotheads and the hyper-competitive need not apply.)
If violent sports are a concern, the NFL has done far more lasting damage to countless participants (and collaterally, to fans and spouses) than just about any other sport in the modern era.
Now, if somebody lets beer vendors into the clays range, then it's time to worry.
Certain modern target shooting events are also more closely related to hunting than war. That's why the clays are referred to as "pigeons." (In fact, in the earliest years of the modern Olympics, the targets were actual pigeons. The switch to mechanically flung clays came in 1900).
Nobody worries about archery as a sport, simply because the use of those instruments in warfare is so long outdated. Shooting sports are just as legitimate as a pursuit on the merits of the physical skills involved, and don't promote "war" any more than bows and arrows do. In fact, sport shooting has some of the most tightly controlled safety rules, and well disciplined participants, you'll find anywhere. (The level of precision involved absolutely demands calmness, focus, and mental clarity to do even marginally well; Hotheads and the hyper-competitive need not apply.)
If violent sports are a concern, the NFL has done far more lasting damage to countless participants (and collaterally, to fans and spouses) than just about any other sport in the modern era.
Now, if somebody lets beer vendors into the clays range, then it's time to worry.
This is purely subjective, and I'm just asking for individual opinions here, not trying to carve anything in stone...
What do you consider to be the core summer Olympic sports? For me, it's track & field, swimming, weightlifting, gymnastics, and wrestling. There are certainly others that I enjoy watching, but the ones I mentioned really say "summer Olympics" to me.
What do you consider to be the core summer Olympic sports? For me, it's track & field, swimming, weightlifting, gymnastics, and wrestling. There are certainly others that I enjoy watching, but the ones I mentioned really say "summer Olympics" to me.
Football, like rugby sevens will be admitted as an Olympic event next go round in the form of a highly diluted game. I don't get the reasoning behind taking any sport and making it "less" so it can be in the Games. Just leave it out. You don't need to worry about Olympic football injuries because it will be non-contact flag football, aka freeze tag. Lacrosse, the oldest sport in North America, will be in the Olympics next time as well but in a reduced format "make it, take it" style with smaller teams and smaller field to weaken it appropriately. Lacrosse was actually in the St. Louis Olympics in 1904.Just as with archery, precision sport shooting involves highly developed physical skills of the full body; Hand-eye coordination, control of breath, and conditioning of muscle groups that encompass everything from overall posture and stance, to fine-motor control of the hands & fingers.
Certain modern target shooting events are also more closely related to hunting than war. That's why the clays are referred to as "pigeons." (In fact, in the earliest years of the modern Olympics, the targets were actual pigeons. The switch to mechanically flung clays came in 1900).
Nobody worries about archery as a sport, simply because the use of those instruments in warfare is so long outdated. Shooting sports are just as legitimate as a pursuit on the merits of the physical skills involved, and don't promote "war" any more than bows and arrows do. In fact, sport shooting has some of the most tightly controlled safety rules, and well disciplined participants, you'll find anywhere. (The level of precision involved absolutely demands calmness, focus, and mental clarity to do even marginally well; Hotheads and the hyper-competitive need not apply.)
If violent sports are a concern, the NFL has done far more lasting damage to countless participants (and collaterally, to fans and spouses) than just about any other sport in the modern era.
Now, if somebody lets beer vendors into the clays range, then it's time to worry.
As far as archery and shooting sports, those are among the sports you could arguably trace to the origins of the Olympics, military type skills were the basis of nearly all the historic events. Just like running, wrestling, etc.
I'd be down for beer pong.
More than that! Closer to 12 years since they received the award to host.
Yep, and sword fighting (fencing), boxing (beating each other up), etc.
To be fair, ask an environmental engineer, and they'll note that rivers are notoriously hard to keep clean. They are, by nature and location, where everything around them flows downhill to fall in, and be "flushed" further away. That is their entire function, way out in the wild, or close in to town. If whatever-it-is falls on the ground (from bears in the woods, to oil leaks from cars on a street), the next rain is going to fall on it, start dissoving it, and send part or all of it, in microscopic scale or larger, down into the creek, stream, or river at the lowest local part of the elevation. Bigger bodies of water are fed by other bodies of water, so the bigger the body of water, the more "stuff" there is in it.
The notion of a deliberately "clean" river is a relatively recent concept people have come up with. That doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile goal, but in a major city and its surrounding metropolitan area, I would not throw river issues into the "shame" category automatically. It's basically demanding that several million people come up with a system to defy both rainfall and gravity.
This is especially tricky in a place like Paris, where the storm water runoff system was designed (many generations ago, when there was far less pavement to shed water into it) to spill into the river when the volume of rainfall overwhelms it. If the storm water system is combined with the sewer, well, guess what else you get?
"Better" is always good, but perfect is rare, and very difficult to come by. The fact that they've done as much as they've been able to is really kind of surprising.
I do hope the efforts continue after the games are over.
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Air gun and plinkers are "specifically created to kill"? Oh the ignorance! Olympics haven't used real centerfire guns in decades.
IPSC has tried for years to become accepted as a Olympic associate sport. Its not being in the Olympics but an acceptance and classification that really helps with international acceptance. The IOC is a cult of personality that does with it wants without any real consideration of the real world. Which is why in 2028 you will have Olympic Hobbyhorsing.
I get the feeling someone walked out on a bridge, hung their head over, saw no turds floating in the Seine and said "OK, it's good, the triathlon is on!"To be fair, ask an environmental engineer, and they'll note that rivers are notoriously hard to keep clean. They are, by nature and location, where everything around them flows downhill to fall in, and be "flushed" further away. That is their entire function, way out in the wild, or close in to town. If whatever-it-is falls on the ground (from bears in the woods, to oil leaks from cars on a street), the next rain is going to fall on it, start dissoving it, and send part or all of it, in microscopic scale or larger, down into the creek, stream, or river at the lowest local part of the elevation. Bigger bodies of water are fed by other bodies of water, so the bigger the body of water, the more "stuff" there is in it.
The notion of a deliberately "clean" river is a relatively recent concept people have come up with. That doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile goal, but in a major city and its surrounding metropolitan area, I would not throw river issues into the "shame" category automatically. It's basically demanding that several million people come up with a system to defy both rainfall and gravity.
This is especially tricky in a place like Paris, where the storm water runoff system was designed (many generations ago, when there was far less pavement to shed water into it) to spill into the river when the volume of rainfall overwhelms it. If the storm water system is combined with the sewer, well, guess what else you get?
"Better" is always good, but perfect is rare, and very difficult to come by. The fact that they've done as much as they've been able to is really kind of surprising.
I do hope the efforts continue after the games are over.
Yes, this was the first time I looked at shooting, so I didn't know about that, definitely ignorant on my part.
Good info!To be fair, ask an environmental engineer, and they'll note that rivers are notoriously hard to keep clean. They are, by nature and location, where everything around them flows downhill to fall in, and be "flushed" further away. That is their entire function, way out in the wild, or close in to town. If whatever-it-is falls on the ground (from bears in the woods, to oil leaks from cars on a street), the next rain is going to fall on it, start dissoving it, and send part or all of it, in microscopic scale or larger, down into the creek, stream, or river at the lowest local part of the elevation. Bigger bodies of water are fed by other bodies of water, so the bigger the body of water, the more "stuff" there is in it.
The notion of a deliberately "clean" river is a relatively recent concept people have come up with. That doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile goal, but in a major city and its surrounding metropolitan area, I would not throw river issues into the "shame" category automatically. It's basically demanding that several million people come up with a system to defy both rainfall and gravity.
This is especially tricky in a place like Paris, where the storm water runoff system was designed (many generations ago, when there was far less pavement to shed water into it) to spill into the river when the volume of rainfall overwhelms it. If the storm water system is combined with the sewer, well, guess what else you get?
"Better" is always good, but perfect is rare, and very difficult to come by. The fact that they've done as much as they've been able to is really kind of surprising.
I do hope the efforts continue after the games are over.
Yes! I thought about the "hurling-sharp-sticks-at-things" after I logged out and went back to doing other stuff.
And shot put! "We're out of powder! Find the biggest guy we have, and let him throw the cannonballs at 'em!"
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I say we just make up new names for old games...
Hammer throw: "Build yer own [bleep]in' castle!"
