WARNING: Oscar Prat Basses

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  1. joel406

    joel406

    Dec 27, 2013
    Florida
    Why would you need to "fix" any issues. Customers communicate what they want to you. You send photos of the work in progress. If you take pride in your work issues such as have been documented in this "Sticky" thread wouldn't be cropping up. Fodera, Sadowsky, Alembic or even Fender don't send out products that require the attention people claim yours do. Maybe Bass building isn't for you.
     
  2. pratbasses

    pratbasses Commercial User

    Jan 20, 2010
    Spain
    Maybe building is not for me... But I won a few awards because my buildings in the last 15 years, and lots of interviews and articles in the most important magazines. Like I said in my last post, issues in this bass are because my physical because the covid, this is an individual and specific bass. Also, it's a joke to say that sometimes other luthiers and companies don't send products that require attention.. sometimes it happen to all luthiers and companies
     
  3. Gothic

    Gothic

    Apr 13, 2008
    Greece
    Man, Prat, I got no dog in this fight but you gotta understand that this isn't salvageable at this point. The photos we'd seen from that bass and the descriptions... Those aren't instruments any professional would actually send out as a finished product. Hell, that's an alpha version at best! I mean, honestly. Look at the pictures and tell me you were actually proud enough of that instrument to send it out to the dude who paid a nice sum for it, as 100% finished and ready to play.

    Offering to fix stuff that shouldn't have been there in the first place isn't how it's supposed to go. And some of that stuff was utterly appaling. There are photos!

    I can understand illnesses and personal emergencies. Certainly. Especially at this day and age with all that's happening worldwide. We're all human. But communication is key. If you couldn't get it done in time and felt like the result wouldn't be up to par (being a luthier, you certainly can judge that yourself. If not, well...) then there are two simple paths you could've chosen. Either refund and apologize or communicate that it's going to take longer to have a result worthy enough to put your name on it.
    You chose the third option, where you sent something sub-par just to cross it off the ledger. I'm assuming, of course, I don't pretend to know your reasoning behind any of this, just judging by what's been said and shown in this thread.

    I'm sorry, I don't know you nor do I have any association with the posters who've had problems with you or your builds but, judging from the "evidence" alone (even just the photos) I'd never commission you to make an instrument for me and I certainly wouldn't recommend you to anyone else.

    And I think that's a key point here. A broken trust and a tarnished reputation are very hard to fix.

    I wish a happy resolution to all of you.
     
  4. pratbasses

    pratbasses Commercial User

    Jan 20, 2010
    Spain
    Agree with you in almost all.
     
  5. joel406

    joel406

    Dec 27, 2013
    Florida
    This is a bad joke.
     
  6. pratbasses

    pratbasses Commercial User

    Jan 20, 2010
    Spain
    I speak with knowledge of the facts
     
  7. joel406

    joel406

    Dec 27, 2013
    Florida
    Ok... sure.
     
  8. smperry

    smperry Administrator Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    Reopened after cleanup. Disagreements and negative opinions about instruments are fine, but disrespect, name calling, and trolling are not.
     
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  9. Yes you have. :thumbsup:

    Honestly, would you have submitted the last bass in question here to any of these magazines?
    Would any awards have been issued with that exact bass?

    That is what this is mostly about.

    You can, and have made fantastic basses.
    The fact that they are not all at the level they should be... is what is in question here.

    If a Bass would not go out to a magazine or a NAMM booth, it should not go out to a customer.

    Bass pictures> Post#310
     
  10. smperry

    smperry Administrator Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    Closed again for more cleanup.

    I'm going to keep this closed, but the thread stickied. If anyone has any new information about a Prat bass, send me a message and maybe I'll reopen. Thanks
     
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