Warwick gnome for gigs and rehearsal

[rpangelov]

So I’ve watched some reviews, read some threads, but I can’t find a good answer on it so that’s why I stared a new thread.

I am playing in a 2 hardcore bands - pretty low tunings. So I got a preamp and I had Hartke 3500 - a very nice tone, very nice build, but this head weights 15kg! The flight case on it made it even heavier. True - I could probably drive with a car over it and it will work and look perfectly, but this is everything but portable. So I decided to sell it and I did.

I came across the Trace Elliot Elf and I saw one guy using it - the fan was sounding like it is going to fly. Than I saw the Warwick Gnome series which took my interest.

I prefer to stick to the small size versions, so I am yet thinking about the standard Warwick Gnome 200w or the Pro v2 version 280w. I have Peavy 410cabinet 4ohm so I can take the max amount of the head in both situation.

Will the 200w be enough for rehearsal and gigs ?

 

[Bodeeni]

I have a couple of Genz Benz Shuttle 3.0 (3.1) 350w into 4ohms and no fan. They are my go to gigging amps and great in the home studio with no fans blasting.

 

[Fortyweight]

I have a TC BAM 200, AFAIK a very similar amp and playing in the same genre as you I would not rely on it being sufficient for shows. Rehearsals are fine though.

 

[Redbrangus]

I am playing in a 2 hardcore bands

If 'hardcore' means you play backing tracks for porn, it will be fine. If hardcore means 'loud', then that wouldn't be enough horsepower, IMO.

 

[pglaser01]

If 'hardcore' means you play backing tracks for porn, it will be fine. If hardcore means 'loud', then that wouldn't be enough horsepower, IMO.

He said 2…….what if it was both??

 

[InkCow]

I had a the base Gnome and it’s a great amp, but I would recommend you set your sights on at least the Gnome i Pro V2 for the extra headroom.

You may also want to consider the Peavey MiniMax.

 

[sheesh]

Sorry - you play hardcore and the fan on the Elf bothers you for rehearsal and gigs? Confused. I have an Elf. For solo practice in a quiet room the fan is a little annoying. Great for a stand in as a guitar amp with the two tens in a pinch.

In my experience a 200 watt amp solid state amp (200 watts if you have two 8 ohm speakers or one 4 ohm speaker) for bass can't keep up with a loud guitar and drum kit. You need at least 400 to 500 watts. There are plenty of light weight amps in this size. A tube amp won't clip the same way as a solid state amp (can't) There may be others who disagree with me and say that it is enough, but in my opinion it isn't enough.

 

[rpangelov]

I am looking for something which is easy to take. 15kg amp without the case is a little too much.

So I don’t mind to get something bigger, but please no 15kg heads.
The bands I play are loud Indeed. Even hardcore porno can be loud, so don’t judge me brothers. The current Hartke 3500 I had never saw a volume level above 4. So minimal of 500w is a little overkill isn’t it ?

 

[Pep]

First of all I have Gnome and it definitely won't be enough, but here's one that's a no brainer.

If you want an amp that (1) is small and lightweight, (2) produces mid to high wattages, (3) is reliable and very affordable at $299, you should consider the Harley Benton 800B. It comes with a 3 year warranty.

Here are the specs:

• Power: 800 W RMS at 4 Ohm
• Class D amplifier
• 4-Band EQ
• Smart Compressor
• DI output with pre/post and lift/ground switches
• High/Low switch for active/passive bass
• Mute function
• Tuner output
• Line input with volume control
• Headphone output
• FX-loop
• Speaker Speakon connections - min. 4 Ohm
• Power supply: 100 - 240 V ~ 50/60 Hz
• Dimensions (W x H x D): 9.5" x 10.1" x 3.5"
• Weight: 6.4 lbs

30-Day Money-Back Guarantee
3-Year Thomann Warranty

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[Redbrangus]

The position of the volume control in no way relates to how much power is being produced versus how much the amp is capable of -- you can't go by that. A 500-watt amp would be 1.5dB more powerful than your 350-watt Hartke, so not exactly overkill. There are literally dozens of modern amps under 7 or 8Kg, and a substantial number under 5Kg, so it shouldn't be too hard to find something that works for you. The 600-watt Peavey Minimax that was mentioned is less than 3Kg.

 

[ole Jason]

lol Why would you care about fan noise if you're playing hardcore? I have the Gnome, it is not enough to compete with loud guitars/drums IMO. Look for something around the 350w-500w range at the least.

The Gnome would probably be enough for rehearsals if you're not playing at show volume.

 

[matthewbrown]

I have an old lightweight Eden head that has served me well for years. Their new stuff is probably worth a look. Here's a THREAD on the TN501.

 

[Crackle]

TC Electronic BQ500 is the droid you're looking for.

 

[Aloe]

I'd upgrade the cab first, if the 410 in question is the 60+ kg cab rated at only 350W RMS.

yeah, sure, a 350W 15kg head is heavy. but a 60+ kg 350W cab is four times heavier.

 

[Vitrius Humor]

TC Electronic BQ500 is reasonably priced and works well for almost anything. Does not color your sound.

 

[salmon256]

I am guessing using a PA or venues system?

Yeah I got to agree next affordable and light alternative is BQ500 and other products in that line.

Orange and Markbass may have some loud amp heads, I heard from users Orange Terror is good, but I have no experience with it plus it is a bit pricey!

 

[MDBass]

So I’ve watched some reviews, read some threads, but I can’t find a good answer on it so that’s why I stared a new thread.

I am playing in a 2 hardcore bands - pretty low tunings. So I got a preamp and I had Hartke 3500 - a very nice tone, very nice build, but this head weights 15kg! The flight case on it made it even heavier. True - I could probably drive with a car over it and it will work and look perfectly, but this is everything but portable. So I decided to sell it and I did.

I came across the Trace Elliot Elf and I saw one guy using it - the fan was sounding like it is going to fly. Than I saw the Warwick Gnome series which took my interest.

I prefer to stick to the small size versions, so I am yet thinking about the standard Warwick Gnome 200w or the Pro v2 version 280w. I have Peavy 410cabinet 4ohm so I can take the max amount of the head in both situation.

Will the 200w be enough for rehearsal and gigs ?

Unfortunately no, a 200 watt solid state amp will very likely not be enough to gig with a low tuned hardcore band.

 

[seescottrock]

First of all I have Gnome and it definitely won't be enough, but here's one that's a no brainer.

If you want an amp that (1) is small and lightweight, (2) produces mid to high wattages, (3) is reliable and very affordable at $299, you should consider the Harley Benton 800B. It comes with a 3 year warranty.

Here are the specs:

• Power: 800 W RMS at 4 Ohm
• Class D amplifier
• 4-Band EQ
• Smart Compressor
• DI output with pre/post and lift/ground switches
• High/Low switch for active/passive bass
• Mute function
• Tuner output
• Line input with volume control
• Headphone output
• FX-loop
• Speaker Speakon connections - min. 4 Ohm
• Power supply: 100 - 240 V ~ 50/60 Hz
• Dimensions (W x H x D): 9.5" x 10.1" x 3.5"
• Weight: 6.4 lbs

30-Day Money-Back Guarantee
3-Year Thomann Warranty

Here's a link: [This invalid link has been removed]
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Heh...

Boob


On Topic:
OP why not something like a GK Fusion?

 

[Michedelic]

How is it that in the golden age of hardcore, the 80’s essentially, I’d see countless bands where the bass player had some old beat to crap Peavey or the equivalent, no more than around 150 watts, and that was enough? And when did everyone become so weak that they can’t lift 40 pounds?

 

[Pep]

Heh...

Boob


On Topic:
OP why not something like a GK Fusion?

Boob? Laughable!