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Warwick v. Fender v. Spector

What should I get?

  • Fender P-bass

    Votes: 55 36.4%

  • Warwick Corvette Standard

    Votes: 41 27.2%

  • Spector NS2000

    Votes: 11 7.3%

  • Spector Euro 4LX

    Votes: 35 23.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 9 6.0%
  • Total voters
    151
#21
ysand said:
I agree that one shouldn't pass some other guy's opinions, but in this case it's not just a single guy. I've noticed such comments regularly around here.

I've never played a p-bass with a band, i've only tried em out alone in a store, but i don't think that this means i can't have an opinion about em. Especially since i've tried other basses under the exact same conditions.

To end this, i think that we both agree that Cryhavok should try all of these before buying cos there are many opinions around just like yours and mine (and the other Tber ones).
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How many of the negative opinions you have read here on TB are from people just like you, who are just repeating what they have heard without any real experience with the instrument to back it up? If you're going to speak from your experience while criticizing an industry standard like a Fender P bass, maybe you should qualify your opinion by stating upon what experience your opinion is based so that so wise people can disregard it.

IME here on TB, many of the Fender bashers have very little experience with Fenders, can't afford a MIA Fender and so have only experienced Mexican or Asian models with poor QC, have no experience playing a P bass in a band, or are playing a really expensive Fender copy, like a Sadowsky or a USA Lakland.

I'm not saying they're the Holy Grail or anything, I just want to try to stop the spread of negative misinformation.
 
#22
BillMason said:
IME here on TB, many of the Fender bashers have very little experience with Fenders,
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....and many Fender die hards have little experience with anything that isn't a Fender, but are willing to offer opinions on stuff they've never played and would never play in a million years.....but that's just TB.

To the OP: There is no such thing as the perfect bass, no bass will cover EVERY tone. Just because something sound different doesn't make it a better or worse bass. Go for comfort and something that plays nicely. You can always fine tune the EQ on your amp to adjust the tone later.
 
#23
BillMason said:
How many of the negative opinions you have read here on TB are from people just like you, who are just repeating what they have heard without any real experience with the instrument to back it up? If you're going to speak from your experience while criticizing an industry standard like a Fender P bass, maybe you should qualify your opinion by stating upon what experience your opinion is based so that so wise people can disregard it.

IME here on TB, many of the Fender bashers have very little experience with Fenders, can't afford a MIA Fender and so have only experienced Mexican or Asian models with poor QC, have no experience playing a P bass in a band, or are playing a really expensive Fender copy, like a Sadowsky or a USA Lakland.

I'm not saying they're the Holy Grail or anything, I just want to try to stop the spread of negative misinformation.
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I read both the opinions on fenders about fender die-hard fans and fender haters. I always read the sigs to see if the guy that says smth about a bass actually owns (or owned) one though.

In conclusion, if u see my original post i say: That I believe that it's not as versatile as these other basses (which means that this is my opinion according to the p-basses i tried) and that "there are complaints about the quality control" (which means "i read it here, from more than 1 person, but i haven't had a problem myself").

Someone can value these info as he/she wants, but i don't see myself spreading negative misinformation. I never said that i had a problem and in reality i didn't. I said what i saw happening here.
 
#24
spade2you said:
....and many Fender die hards have little experience with anything that isn't a Fender, but are willing to offer opinions on stuff they've never played and would never play in a million years.....but that's just TB.

To the OP: There is no such thing as the perfect bass, no bass will cover EVERY tone. Just because something sound different doesn't make it a better or worse bass. Go for comfort and something that plays nicely. You can always fine tune the EQ on your amp to adjust the tone later.
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I agree with what you said to the OP - but am a little curious about the first part - did I offer any opinions on anything that I have no experience with? Or are you not calling me a die hard? What I said is valid and had to be said, or else the OP might take invalid opinions as a majority opinion and never try a Fender. Maybe he'd really like one. Maybe he'd really like a Warwick or a Spector, I don't care what he decides to buy, but I do care that whatever he buys is based on valid information and first hand experience, and I do care that other people reading this forum looking to get informed don't get sucked in to invalid opinions thinking that they are the majority opinion.

Most of the members on TB and most pros you see in concert, hear recorded, or see on TV own a Fender bass. They can't suck that bad.
 
#25
ysand said:
I read both the opinions on fenders about fender die-hard fans and fender haters. I always read the sigs to see if the guy that says smth about a bass actually owns (or owned) one though.

In conclusion, if u see my original post i say: That I believe that it's not as versatile as these other basses (which means that this is my opinion according to the p-basses i tried) ...
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Right, I did read your OP, but you didn't say that your experience is limited to playing solo in a music store. Your comment about QC is like spreading a rumour, one that is not based on any facts or personal experience of your own. I didn't say you can't have an opinion, just that you should qualify it if your experience is so limited so people can weigh it based on your experience.

Have a nice day.
 
#26
I would recomend the Corvette. THis is a great bass and it sounds like you already are pretty happy with the bass. If the weight is an issue for you then find your self a nice wide (3-4") leather strap and that will alleviate a good bit of the weight. Also, try playing a Thumb NT for an extended period of time and i think you will be quite happy with the weight of the Vette. Good luck to you in your search.

Tips and advice from fellow TB'ers are great for help making decisions, but it really comes down to YOU and which bass you like and feels best to you.
 
#27
BillMason said:
Most of the members on TB and most pros you see in concert, hear recorded, or see on TV own a Fender bass. They can't suck that bad.
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Just because something is popular doesn't make it great. It's sort of a Bud Light mentality. Warwick users are just as guilty, but nowadays everyone is either trying to shove a Warwick or Fender down everyone's throat.

There's more to bass than playing the same way as everyone, having the same sound as everyone, and trying to cop the same image as everyone else.
 
#28
One of the reasons the P is a very versatile is because the tone of it naturally sits where it should, right above the kick drum. The other two need to be eq'ed a fair bit in order to sound like an accompanying instrument, even then they aren't the greatest. On the other hand, if you want that rock cutting through type sound, well, Steve Harris made a P work, what does that tell you?

It's not about how many switches you got. That said, I would definitely get a P/J, a passive one. Unless you know you won't ever need that 'holding it down' kind of tone, then either of the other two work great.

Just my opinion. And yes, it takes years of experience to realize the tone in the store is not the same as what you hear live or on a record. Most likely years and a lot of dollars....
 
#29
Thanks for all the comments so far. I'm hoping to get my hands on a Spector sometime soon, otherwise I'll probably just end up getting the Warwick if I can find one for the right price. I liked the Fender, but I liked the Warwick even more.

I agree with what Bill is saying, I do quite often see people bashing Fenders without any real experience or info to back up their claims. However, I agree that sand was just posting his opinion. Maybe the quality control comment was a little over the lines, as he didn't give much to back it up aside from hearing it around the TB forums, but it was still just his opinion.
 
#31
BillMason said:
but you didn't say that your experience is limited to playing solo in a music store. Your comment about QC is like spreading a rumour, one that is not based on any facts or personal experience of your own. I didn't say you can't have an opinion, just that you should qualify it if your experience is so limited so people can weigh it based on your experience.

Have a nice day.
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You are right about that , i should have mentioned in the first place that i tried the p only in a store and maybe be more specific about the QC thing, because now that i read it again it isn't clear that it's based only on opinions from others. That's my fault and i am sorry for the misunderstanding.

Have a nice day too :)

@Cryhavok I hope u'll find a spector to try, so that u can make your final decision based on what feels and sounds better to you :smug:
 
#32
Cryhavok said:
I think that's my main problem with the Fender. It's a little too common for my tastes...
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I wouldn't say NOT to have a Fender in the arsenal, although I'd agree a PJ or JPJ (a la Fender Urge and Urge II) would certainly be a much more flexible bass. My point is that there isn't a perfect tone for EVERYTHING. If we all sounded the same, there'd be no Jaco, Wooten, et al. Bassists would get kicked out of the band for disagreeing with anyone because we'd all get replaced by a clone.

If possible, bring your amp to see what sounds good with what you're using. See if the shop will let you wear the bass and check for comfort issues such as neck dive.
 
#33
i think these three brands are not really comparable. the are too many differences, especially in regards to fender. warwick and spector may have similar constructions, but the pickup's and electronics are completely different again.

reagrding the versatility argument, my 2cents are that if one and the same bass is played in jazz, reggae, blues and heavy metal it is versatile, no matter how many shiny knobs it has.
 
#34
I have both a Spector ReBop and a Warwick Corvette, both 5 strings. I'm not sure if I got a hold of a freak of nature, but my Corvette is the lighter of the two. I believe Warwick makes the Corvette in both Swamp Ash and Bubinga, I assume mine is Swamp Ash, although the black finish on it makes it hard to tell and the knuckleheads at GC sure didn't know. In fact the Warwick is the lightest 5 string I own.


I use the Warwick in my country group....

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The Spector gets more use with my rock/blues group.

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Don't really have much opinion on Fenders, other than I've always considered P basses too heavy for me.
 
#35
P-bass is excellent for hard rock style, but for an alternative band its sound is very limited. P-bass has a standard sound, a vintage classic sound.
If you want a more flexible sound that you can do more things and you want something more go for a Corvette definitely ( I hope you mean a Warwick not a Rockbass!).
No opinion for Spectors. I've never played or heard them live.
 
#36
[QUOTE="W";5598251]P-bass is excellent for hard rock style, but for an alternative band its sound is very limited. P-bass has a standard sound, a vintage classic sound.
If you want a more flexible sound that you can do more things and you want something more go for a Corvette definitely ( I hope you mean a Warwick not a Rockbass!).
No opinion for Spectors. I've never played or heard them live.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure I played a Corvette Standard. Is there a specific way to tell if it's a Warwick or a RockBass?
 

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