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We REALLY need to stop supporting this company.

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I came across this story and thought it might be relevant, because I see a lot of "old guys vs. young guys" going on here. I would like to suggest that when we snipe at each other across generational lines, we are acting exactly as our Overlords want us to. Here is a link to a comment on a story that ran in the Washington Post, which engages in a popular Washington pastime: trying to get young people angry at their parents and grandparents so that they are not bothered by the enormous upward redistribution of income taking place in this country.

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Not hyperbole at all. Employees are cost. Rights are cost. Freedom is cost.
While there is nothing wrong with your spirit, your use of words doesn't facilitate a reasonable discussion. Calling GC employees slaves is hyperbole. Expanding the meaning of the word rights far beyond its legal definition is hyperbole.

And for the record, anyone who has engaged into a binding arbitration agreement still can file any lawsuit they choose. The agreement doesn't deny them due process, but it is likely to strongly influence the outcome in the courts depending upon whether the agreement is judged to be legal and binding.

GC may have done something illegal in making this demand of employees for all I know. However if so it would be a violation of labor laws, not a rights issue.
 
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There are inherent problems with any degree of us versus them thinking and I agree it's a tool that has been used successfully and decisively throughout history. Making the "peon versus overlord" argument is equally problematic. In this case the peon thinks of only one thing - what is good for their own interest. However the overlord has to think of two things - what is best for themselves, and what will keep the business running. In a way the overlord is the unexpected hero because their secondary concern is good for the other side. My view is that it's a flawed model. That doesn't mean that people at the top aren't greedy. It just affords people at the top to continue to operate in their own self interests - which is a right the peons seem to feel is their exclusive domain. Weird.
 
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I never find anything to try out at GC - they stock 50 $400 basses, 100 Squier kits, 10 run of the mill Fenders and 10 run of the mill Music Mans - that's it. Nothing is ever set up correctly, it's always noisy and nobody pays attention to you. Their used and vintage stuff is all rip-offs. They pull stuff out of the garbage, shine it up, call it vintage and sell it for 10x what it's worth.

You go onto their site, they have EVERYTHING listed but virtually nothing in stock. They also default to showing you used instruments from all over the country.

I now go only to Sam Ash, which is actually a music store, not a big box guitar store, even though it's harder to get to than GC. I'd rather buy an instrument at Walmart's than GC.

It all depends on where you live. GC in Orlando usually has a decent variety of basses including recently a new PRS Gary Grainger private stock, various music man, American dlx jazz and p bass, used vintage fenders, etc. the Sam ash in town is complete garbage.

As for set up, if there is a bass I want to try I set it up on the spot. Takes less than 5 minutes and helps out the next person who will try it.
 
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Well... after buying my Ric from Musiciansfriend last month for $1400, I just supported them again by buying some effects and cables. With their new backstage pass program, that Ric winds up costing me a whole lot less than the $1400, too, when I make a future purchase - which I will. A Zoom B3 plus 2 Fender 15 ft. cables just cost me $209, and I'll get additional money back because of the backstage pass. I could have gotten a bigger discount on B3 and cables, but I didn't want to wait for the next coupons.

You can shop wherever you want. I'm making up for the money I get screwed out of having to pay for my own health insurance by getting awesome deals and great customer service at Musiciansfriend :). It would be ludicrous for me to pay more, because someone has to sign an arbitration agreement if they choose to work there.
 
There are inherent problems with any degree of us versus them thinking and I agree it's a tool that has been used successfully and decisively throughout history. Making the "peon versus overlord" argument is equally problematic. In this case the peon thinks of only one thing - what is good for their own interest. However the overlord has to think of two things - what is best for themselves, and what will keep the business running. In a way the overlord is the unexpected hero because their secondary concern is good for the other side. My view is that it's a flawed model. That doesn't mean that people at the top aren't greedy. It just affords people at the top to continue to operate in their own self interests - which is a right the peons seem to feel is their exclusive domain. Weird.

Dangerous nonsense. Do you think for one moment that Bain gave a damn about keeping Guitar Center running? They did not! They bought it, pumped it full of debt, took all the money they could, and now the chain will likely be out of business by April. Hey, even Alan Greenspan had to quit drinking the free-market kool-aid...

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Dangerous nonsense. Do you think for one moment that Bain gave a damn about keeping Guitar Center running? They did not! They bought it, pumped it full of debt, took all the money they could, and now the chain will likely be out of business by April. Hey, even Alan Greenspan had to quit drinking the free-market kool-aid...

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Read carefully. My point is that model of thinking is flawed - and it is specifically targeting the "us versus them" mentality.
 
Yep Unions gave us the 40 hr week, OT, and many other benefits creating a middle class. For 30+ yrs now unions have been vilified because the rich don't want workers to have any leverage. Simple as that. Look what we've become and follow the life & death of the unions.
here,here....im union and proud to be!
 
Unenforceable clause.

I learned, when I was a real estate agent, that there are some things you can agree to in writing but are not enforceable. Silly example: You can agree in writing to hand over your oldest child if you miss more than two payments. It's not enforceable.

And in this case, another challenge is that when a large company asks individuals to agree to something that seems unreasonable, the individual can say they signed "under duress" because they had to sign, "or else". It actually makes it difficult for large companies to enter into legal agreements with individuals and hope to enforce them.

i.e. I think this is an intimidation tactic, rather than anything legally enforceable. If people sign, they will be less likely to exercise their rights, even though they could if the need arose.
 
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